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Israel’s military has said it was highly likely its troops fired the shot that killed Ayşenur Ezgi Eygi, the American-Turkish woman killed at a protest in the occupied West Bank.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said her death was unintentional and expressed deep regret.

The statement came as Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state, called the killing of the 26-year-old last week “unprovoked and unjustified”.

Speaking on a diplomatic visit to London, Blinken told journalists that Eygi’s death showed the Israeli security forces needed to make fundamental changes to their rules of engagement.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is ghoulishly disingenuous to suggest that a nation making their 500th shipment of child-exploding munitions to a genocidal warlord is somehow less culpable.

Biden is like a negligent parent, letting his mentally disturbed 14-year-old have access to the family assault rifle. Maybe after the first shooting he could havd a credible defense. But by now Netanyahu is on his 2000th school shooting, and Biden is still providing weapons.

Biden might as well be shooting those Palestinian children himself, the blood is on his hands.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No it isn't. I'm not saying it's right. I'll criticize it all the time. American companies like IBM and Dow Chemical helped facilitate the Nazis genocide. They were not charged for murder or treated as murderers. Despite knowing exactly what their products were being used for. And the fact that please uses would generally not be considered Justified or acceptable. Only profitable. Sending arms to Israel right now especially is a horrible idea they're current leadership are genocytomaniacs. But there is legitimate reason to arm Israel historically speaking I'm not saying that I agree with it. But just saying that there is some acceptability even so the situation is very different on many fronts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In a new research briefing submitted to the U.S. government today as part of the National Security Memorandum on Safeguards and Accountability with Respect to Transferred Defense Articles and Defense Services (NSM-20) process, Amnesty International USA details civilian deaths and injuries with U.S.-made weapons, as well as other cases that highlight an overall pattern of unlawful attacks by Israeli forces. The briefing also details practices by Israeli forces inconsistent with best practices for mitigating civilian harm and provides clear examples of the misuse of defense articles, the commission of torture, and the use of unlawful lethal force. Lastly, the briefing also details the denial of humanitarian assistance to the civilian population of Gaza.

“It’s shocking that the Biden administration continues to hold that the government of Israel is not violating international humanitarian law with U.S.-provided weapons when our research shows otherwise and international law experts disagree,” said Amanda Klasing, National Director for Government Relations with Amnesty International USA. “The International Court of Justice found the risk of genocide in Gaza is plausible and ordered provisional measures. President Biden must end U.S. complicity with the government of Israel’s grave violations of international law and immediately suspend the transfer of weapons to the government of Israel.”

“The evidence is clear and overwhelming: the government of Israel is using U.S.-made weapons in violation of international humanitarian and human rights law, and in a manner that is inconsistent with U.S. law and policy, said Klasing. “In order to follow U.S. laws and policies, the United States must immediately suspend any transfer of arms to the government of Israel.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's doesn't rebut anything I said. But it is what I expect from leninists. Especially someone who would proudly associate with a monster-like Stalin. A wall of text that has nothing to do with anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I did accidentally respond to the wrong comment. It was in response to when you said:

First of all its ghoulishly disingenuous for you to conflate providing arms. Which is wrong I'm not justifying that. To actually killing people. That's straight up empty virtue signaling and not solving or convincing anyone of anything.

This is not analogous to a murder case. When it comes to International and US Law, the US is complicit in the genocide because we are actively providing the arms being used for said genocide.

Also, I'm not a leninist nor a stalinist.

I'm a leftist and I'm very anti-authoritian. I even explicitly state that in my profile. The name is just an edgy pun.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perhaps this is the crux of our disagreement, because I think it is obvious that IBM, Dow, et al. should have been prosecuted for their role in the holocaust.

Our modern would would be much better off if these evil companies had faced justice, instead of allowing them to normalize their inhumanity.

Sadly our ancestors did not eradicate fascism, they just postponed it. We should learn from their weakness and their mistakes as we wage our modern fight against fascism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They should have been prosecuted at the very least. Realistically capitalism should be rained in as a whole. Because it is their duty to do such things in similar cases. But there is a difference. But that doesn't change facts. They didn't commit genocide. They enabled it. Which is bad and a crime unto itself. But it's different which is why we tack The extra word onto it. So no our disagreement comes from the fact that so many people want to imply that aiding and abetting or enabling genocide is the exact same thing as having done it yourself. It's not and never has been and never will be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think you're splitting hairs here.

The difference between "aiding and abetting" and "comitting" are vanishingly small. Both crimes deserve the most severe condemnation, both crimes deserve the most severe punishment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Hey that's your opinion and your welcome to it. It's not supported by facts evidence or reality. But that's never stopped anyone.

Inevitably. Every single time with people like you this is always what it comes down to. Not a genuine discussion or anything even resembling. Someone agrees with you 99%. But they don't grind the same pet axe that you grind. Or feel the same need to misrepresent facts as you do. All of a sudden you feel this deep urge. A need to tell someone whose Family actually survived genocide at the hands of the United States what genocide is. What I said was not to defend the United states. It was to not downplay what genocide is. The United States plenty guilty of genocide elsewhere. They're not committing genocide in this case they are enabling it. And that's horrible wrong should be charged prosecuted etc etc etc etc etc. It's not genocide.