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Bodycam shows police dragging NFL star Tyreek Hill from car before season opener
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2024
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Out of control racist pieces of shit cops. That's all true.
Also, separately and not related to this incident, Hill is a piece of shit human being.
Yup. There's no need to argue at all. Just stop the guy, give them the ticket and move on. If a guy is too angry to deal with, so be it. It's not like talking louder or dragging him out is going to fix whatever happened 5 seconds ago that made the cop stop the driver. Just stop being racist pieces of shit cops, that's all we ask for.
Moreover, you now have their plate, which has their address on it. Mail the damn ticket if you're scared to deal with it in person or whatever.
Exactly! Get that license plate real good and high tail it out of there. No need to stay and make a bunch of kids miss their dad for a lifetime. Fucking get some doughnuts at the Wendy's and leave people alone!
Wendy's doesn't have doughnuts, just sayin'.
It's good for them to waste time too. What now doughnuts?! No sir! If you want doughnuts you'll have to drive over to the DMV and wait in line (Doughnut Manufacturer & Vendor).
Related to this incident. You know what I do when I get pulled over? Shut my car off and roll the window down. If it's at night I'll also turn on the dome light.
This guy keeps his loud ass sports car running, has dark tint on the windows, and won't put his window down at all so the cops can see him, or what he's doing. He was being an asshole the entire stop.
None of which is illegal nor worth a beating.
I'm glad that you enjoy grabbing ankle for every cop you smell.
Why make a stressful situation worse? They didn't know him or what he was going to do behind the wheel of a running car.
He handed the cop all the paperwork he needed for the stop 10 second into the video and Hill told the cop to right him a ticket before he rolled up his window. So the cops knew exactly what Hill wanted, which was his ticket so he could go on with his day.
62 second from the start of the video to when Hill is on the ground. All because he hurt the cops feelings, they got some real sensitive cops down in Florida lol.
No, you don't get it... He not only didn't quake in fear and shit his pants like you are apparently required to do, but he had the fucking audacity to do it while black. How fucking dare he only comply with their demands! Doesn't he know that these brave enforcers of the written, unwritten, and made on the spot rules deserve to both see and smell your extreme fear when they are randomly exercising their authority to be your judge, jury, and executioner just because you committed some minor traffic infraction.
His window was actually down. He rolled it back up after telling them to go write the ticket because he's going to be late. Definitely some entitlement but he was compliant in every other respect.
After reading this comment I've come to the conclusion he got what he deserved and it's okay for cops to abuse their power as long as they guy isn't acting civilized.
What abuse? You're allowed to put cuffs on someone who won't step out of a running vehicle.
Was he tackled down? Tazed? Punched? Beaten? Bleeding? Pepper sprayed?
He was compliant literally the second they opened his unlocked door. Why do they need to dogpile him?
No he wasn't.
We can see the video. The literal second they open his unlocked door he tells them he's getting out. They drag him out anyways. Then they dog pile him and he lets them do whatever they want to him. After he's cuffed they control him with one officer and nothing more severe than a tap on his shoulder.
They absolutely escalated the situation beyond where it needed to be.
Youre right. You can see the video. He's told four or five times to get out of the car before it was opened by the cop. Then Hill says he's getting out, but doesn't actually move to get out. Until he's quasi pulled out, but the cops didn't give a whole lot of time on that part. Saying you're going to do something, but not actually doing it is something I even run into a lot as an emt. We just never escalate the situation with any force unless there isn't another option and the person is in a situation where they legally have to go to the hospital. Cops are usually much less patient, but they deal with a different portion of the public a lot of times.
Bottom line is that the cops may have been assholes or not, but Hill wasn't doing anything to try and keep the stop calm or civil. He was being a dick. Just like he's been a dick all his life, right back to punching and choking his pregnant girlfriend back in college and all the way on up. Then having the gull to tell some Mexican cops that they pulled him over because he was black and in a nice car, like playing the race card is supposed to work against a hispanic dude.
You're getting downvoted because we have eyes and can see your lies.
Lol. Where is my lie? Specifically.
I wanna see this.
Why are you being hostile to me when I'm agreeing with you? Don't show proper respect to agent of the state = slap them in cuffs, throw them on the ground, lock them up for however long needed to teach the animals respect for authority.
Its so strange you're reacting negatively to us agreeing with one another
People like you are why I own guns.
I hope you are better with the guns than you are at reading comprehension
Yeah I'm leaving this one here as a reminder on how to read sarcasm, because I'm bad at that over text. Though I probably shoulda known better considering the sub we're in.
I unbuckle my belt and assume the posture
I got a no seatbelt ticket for unbuckling it before he got to my window once. I was parked in a parking lot too. That cop was an asshole.
He wasn't talking about a seatbelt...