World News

32282 readers

609 users here now

News from around the world!

Rules:

Please only post links to actual news sources, no tabloid sites, etc
No NSFW content
No hate speech, bigotry, propaganda, etc

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

Nuland has finally admitted that the Ukraine-Russia peace deal, nearly finalized in spring 2022, fell apart because of the US, UK, and other Western governments. (media.mas.to)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

101 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sie hat diese Zeit hat auch genutzt, um stärker zu werden, wie man heute sieht.

It [Ukraine] also used this time to become stronger, as we can see today.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They also used the time to become stronger. But that was not the goal of Minsk.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They also used the time to become stronger. But that was not the goal of Minsk.

Yea it was to bring peace. Why would you want "to become stronger", when part of the peace agreement was to become a buffer zone to NATO? Why else would the Russians else have signed it? How do you explain that with Merkel saying that it was just to buy time? Wouldn't the Russians feel betrayed/played if it wasn't implemented for peace, but just to stall them?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I did not get your point. Even with a treaty in place, why would Ukraine not trying to become stronger with the Russian threat? Again, Merkel says quite clearly IMHO that it was for not escalating the conflict to get to peace, possibly then integrating Ukraine in the EU or NATO.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Even with a treaty in place, why would Ukraine not trying to become stronger with the Russian threat?

Because "getting stronger" in this context means militarily. Why would you want to bolster your military, when the Minsk treaty guarantees safety from russia? Not implementing the treaty and continued prospect of joining NATO, bolstering Ukraines military antagonized Russia, as they saw that the Minsk agreement got ignored. Merkel admitting that it was just to buy time, proved the Russians right.