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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (20 children)

The primary problem is that for negotiations to even begin is that Ukraine itself has a law that forbids anybody to negotiate with Putin before Ukraine has regained all it's lands, even Zelensky himself would technically speaking commit treason by agreeing to talk on peace terms before this law is repealed. That is unless Scholz speaks of the "Zelensky peace plan" that is basically Russia gives up all the pre 2014 territories and then Kiev will negotiate with Moscow. Which is equally nonsensical and impossible situation.

I don't know if what if any Scholz is trying to do here. All talk most likely for domestic audience, because the opposition won big in regional elections in Germany lately on "no more money to Ukraine" platform.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sooo they can bend the law and postpone holding elections, but they cannot bend it to hold peace talks? It's just an excuse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Essentially yes because both holding elections or negotiating would spell doom to many Kiev politicians and very likely not just their political careers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Quite the irony; somehow not doing anything and getting people killed needlessly and destroying your own nation is an okay path forward, but trying to find a compromise that stops that would cost you your career... I mean, it's not surprising, but also really sad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Sooo they can bend the law and postpone holding elections

No, Ukraine was attacked, so parliament and president declared martial law. Ukraine is constitutionally prohibited from holding elections until it is over.

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