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The songs that the AI CEO provided to Smith originally had file names full of randomized numbers and letters such as "n_7a2b2d74-1621-4385-895d-b1e4af78d860.mp3," the DOJ noted in its detailed press release.

When uploading them to streaming platforms, including Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify, and YouTube Music, the man would then change the songs' names to words like "Zygotes," "Zygotic," and "Zyme Bedewing," whatever that is.

The artist naming convention also followed a somewhat similar pattern, with names ranging from the normal-sounding "Calvin Mann" to head-scratchers like "Calorie Event," "Calms Scorching," and "Calypso Xored."

To manufacture streams for these fake songs, Smith allegedly used bots that stream the songs billions of times without any real person listening. As with similar schemes, the bots' meaningless streams were ultimately converted to royalty paychecks for the people behind them.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (18 children)

Wow. I'm a hobbyist musician. I have ~12 million listens across various streaming services and have made a whopping $45 in the two years since I finally released ~25 years worth of material. (Which is a lot of why it's my hobby and not a living.)

I can't imagine the numbers this guy had to pull off to make that much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Based on your numbers, ~260k plays per dollar. The person in the submission would have to get ~2600 billion plays to get $10 million.

Something doesn't seem right with those numbers.

There are people on forums doing the same thing as the person in the submission. 1 person with ~30 phones can generate about 15-20k streams in a day doing it manually.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe some kind of increasing scale for revenue depending on larger numbers of listens.

My break down by track is pretty inconsistent, too. I've got a single track with over a million listen that made me 36 cents. My most popular track has over 4M listens, and it's responsible for half that $45. Distrokid doesn't say which streaming service that revenue comes from, either. Some pay more than others, I imagine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you pay them any money to have the songs on the platforms?

If not, I wonder if they charge you a fee but only deduct their fee from your earnings. So if you don't get plays then they don't ask for money. And the break even point is at around 1 million plays. Just a theory of course; I'm sure it's all stated in the fine print.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I pay Distrokid ~$20 a year to distribute my music to a lot of streaming services, but I do not pay individual streaming services. I never really expected much return. I wasn't disappointed! Haha!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was just curious about why 4 million plays is ~$20 and 1 million plays is less than a dollar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The best I can figure is that the 4M$20 track was popular on a streaming service that pays better, and vice versa for whatever reason.

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