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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The point was America started the war for self interest. The whole ordeal was an exercise in paying heaps of money to defense contractors. There was no clue what victory looked like. They should have just up and left after vin laden was killed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

That America starts wars for self interest is easier to defend, but honestly I'm not convinced of that, either. There was always a lot of that neocon ideology that democracy (or just capitalism) can be spread by force, and I see no reason to expect it's just a facade. It would be hard to prove that either way, though, because once you're an ideological actor your ideology losing means your national influence losing as well.

More relevant to the original topic, it's fair to say that America doesn't always start a war that would be in it's national interest, at least. In the 90's, they could have gone on an expansionist spree pretty easily, but they did triumphalism instead, and just kind of rested on their laurels until 9/11 (with the possible exception of Bosnia).