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New Mexico is seeking an injunction to permanently block Snap from practices allegedly harming kids. That includes a halt on advertising Snapchat as "more private" or "less permanent" due to the alleged "core design problem" and "inherent danger" of Snap's disappearing messages. The state's complaint noted that the FBI has said that "Snapchat is the preferred app by criminals because its design features provide a false sense of security to the victim that their photos will disappear and not be screenshotted."

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Heather" also tested out Snapchat's search tool, finding that "even though she used no sexually explicit language, the algorithm must have determined that she was looking for CSAM" when she searched for other teen users.

But literally in just the previous paragraph:

Posing as "Sexy14Heather," the investigator swapped messages with adult accounts, including users who "sent inappropriate messages and explicit photos.

Gee, I wonder how the algorithm could've possibly suggested these users. What a mystery.

I'm not defending Snapchat here - they're a scumbag company with a scumbag product and they should be held responsible for enabling the sharing of CSAM on their platform - but it doesn't just match you with random predators out of thin air. They went in with specific keywords in their username and a pattern of account engagement.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

That's nuance that I hadn't considered and I appreciate you pointing it out. I'm not on any of these sharing platforms so I have no idea what they're like and that made it easy to overlook this detail which is probably pretty relevant.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're also trying to claim screen shots are a major security issue, even though everyone knows they can just do that and the real benefit of deleted messages is that no corpo, cop, or cracker can snoop on them later.

They are completely incompetent and tech illiterate, is what I'm saying

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You know that on Snapchat the messages aren't deleted anymore right? They are stored on your phone and the Snapchat servers. That is how "memories" works, and there used to be screenshot workaround to grab the photo back after the fact, but I am not sure if they have hid them better by now.

Snapchat is not even close to a secure messaging program...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow that's fucked. That's the entire reason snapchat is even still a thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The messages never disappeared really.

There have been alternate apps and even jailbreak workarounds for Snapchat since the beginning to copy and keep the messages.

The benefit of Snapchat was the theater of it