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Commissioned by the Arab American Institute (AAI), the online poll of 2,505 American voters conducted between July 31 and August 1 found that 44% of U.S. voters would back Harris, 40% would support Republican nominee Donald Trump, and 11% would vote third party “if the election for president of the United States were held today.”

But if Harris were to endorse a suspension of U.S. arms shipments and diplomatic support for Israel “until there was a cease-fire and withdrawal of forces from Gaza,” her national support would grow from 44% to 49%.

A majority of Democratic voters say the Gaza crisis is either very or somewhat important in determining how they vote in November, according to the AAI poll.

The new survey, which has a margin of error of 2 percentage points, is consistent with an earlier poll commissioned by the Institute for Middle Eastern Understanding Policy Project, which found that Harris would bolster her chances in key battleground states if she backed an arms embargo.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This hinges heavily on the theory that we've got a bunch of single issue Anti-Genocide voters. And I've lived through too many American sponsored genocides to believe it.

However, three things poll really well in the United States

  • Cutting Spending on Foreign Aid (to literally anywhere)
  • Looking tough in front of foreign leaders
  • Getting the TV/Radio to stop talking about genocide

I doubt she'd get a full 5% bump (unless she announces this the day before early voting starts), because there would inevitably be a bunch of spin and backlash, assuming media didn't just switch to New Thing and leave her position on Gaza in the rear view mirror. But it seems pretty clear that she'd get some noticeable benefit by siding with American voters on a broadly popular issue.

Harris would bolster her chances in key battleground states if she backed an arms embargo.

Lots of Muslim communities in these swing Midwestern states who are already marginally primed to vote for the Democrats. It definitely wouldn't hurt, given the Uncommitted Vote count in Michigan and Pennsylvania during the Dem primary were some of the highest in the country.

She might even benefit in states like Texas and Arizona, given how many Iranian, Lebanese, and Turkish ex-pats live there. De-escalation in the Middle East would personally mean a lot to a co-worker of mine who still has family living in Tehran, for instance.

But its also very possible that the risk of offending a NY/DC media that's heavily influenced by AIPAC is just too high. The Israeli Lobby is already biased towards the Republican Party and its Evangelical Anti-Muslim Base voters. Perhaps Harris is simply terrified of what a foreign government with a proven record of reshaping public opinion might do. If Russia can flip an election with a $46k Facebook ad buy, imagine what an irate AIPAC lobbyist could manage with tens of millions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So AIPAC are a terror organization?

They will cause extreme social unrest and conflict to advance their political agenda. Leaving people to fear their attack as the reason they are complicit to them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So AIPAC are a terror organization?

If we can call the Hamas health ministry a terrorist organization, then the lobbying wing of the Israeli military must surely qualify.

They will cause extreme social unrest and conflict to advance their political agenda. Leaving people to fear their attack as the reason they are complicit to them.

The problem with a propaganda machine is that it can fuck you right up the ass and leave you thanking it for its service.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

America really needs to stop calling actual governments terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What if they're engaging in terrorism?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then there's words for that. State Sponsored Terrorism or Act of War.

We don't want to use those words though because that would mean Israel has been committing acts of war against Gaza for decades, regardless of where they were in the peace process. Instead we pretend Hamas aren't a government and therefore things like the blockade aren't Acts of War, they're just internal military operations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

State Sponsored Terrorism

Sounds like terrorism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's the difference between Iran and Al Qaeda. Nobody is saying they're great people. But you treat those two differently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Islamic STATE vs Jewish state..... THEYRE THE SAME THING WITH DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS NUTJOBS AT THE HELM

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nobody is saying they’re great people.

Really? Just writing off everyone in Iraq as shit?

Least Bigoted American.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A. Iran, not Iraq.

B. The people are not the state there. That's part of why the distinction is made.

C. Be better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The people are not the state there.

I'll hear this line up front, and then I'll watch the country get terrorized while Americans insist the victims of bombings deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Honestly, where do you think you get off with this shit? Just a totally unwarranted, baseless, and factually inaccurate attack. Makes you look like a petty idiot.