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Israel is doing a genocide, the us and its puppets are funding or arming the genociders, and Europe is banning protests of the genocide.
Western capitalist hegemony is a fascistic death cult that will destroy us all unless we destroy it first, and every day we don’t millions are condemned to horrific deaths
I really wish I could have a permanent record of everything every liberal has ever said so I could easily demonstrate how full of shit they are in 10 to 20 years when they all collectively deny ever having supported Israel through the Palestinian genocide.
I'd say, "It's the Internet", but these days institutional powers seem to be able to convince even Internet archives to remove shit that's too inconvenient for them.
It is not Israel that wants to annihilate Gaza and the Palestinian people, it is Hamas (and their backer the Iranian government) that wants to annihilate Israel and the Jewish people.
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2023/10/14/these-animals-can-no-longer-live-says-israels-oldest-reservist
To believe this is uncommon sentiment would be naive
I agree. But neither is it an official Israeli position, nor can I see how it would be justified to suppose statements like this would be endorsed by anything even close to a majority of the Israeli people. Talk of a planned genocide of the Palestinian people is pure propaganda.
what do you call walling in 2 million people and cutting off food water and fuel then bombing the shit out of the walled enclosure? Israel is doing genocide right now it doesn't matter if its official or not
Please walk into the sea.
Isreal is currently perpetrating a genocide against the Palestinian people. Kind of hard to argue they don't want to when it's exactly what they're doing.
So far, it was only France that banned pro-Palestinean protests. But the French government is also far right, so it makes sense. Don't equate their fascism to the rest of Europe, please.
I understand its not about Europe but Switzerland banned several protests in big cities as well.
Really? That honestly surprises me. Also means that I'm not really up-to-date anymore.
Apologies for the German Language, it states several were banned, one in the capitol allowed.
https://www.nau.ch/news/schweiz/israel-krieg-bern-erlaubt-palastina-demo-verbot-in-zurich-basel-66628376
I'm German, so no language barrier. Thanks!
Edit: Holy hell, that poll. 65% support the ban of pro-Palestine demos because it's "too touchy". Media did a great job programming the public to think "pro-Palestine" is on par with "pro-Hamas".
Germany has been one of Israel's staunchest supporters all throughout the Cold War - despite the fact that Germany's security services have been festering swamps of nazi-ideology before all the WW2 rubble had been carted away.
The link is to a Swiss newspaper tho, which is why I was surprised.
One of the largest worker unions in Germany (ver.di) proudly and openly proclaims that they stand with Israel and they have been doing that for years. Now why are they doing this instead of focusing on their actual purpose? Senseless activism to avoid being labeled as nazis. In Germany, being a nazi is way worse than supporting a genocide.
The fact that it's even possible to conflate criticism with Israel with anitsemitism just shows to what extent the west has avoided dealing with it's own antisemitism - most westerners don't seem to have the foggiest idea what it even is or isn't. I wonder why the Apartheid-regime never tried deflecting criticism of itself by blaming everyone else of "reverse racism"...
Every country in Europe is flirting with overt far-right ideology... as opposed to just nurturing it covertly (which is the normal state of affairs for Europe, it seems).