this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2024
682 points (98.0% liked)

politics

19097 readers
4738 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 206 points 2 months ago (6 children)

She destroyed the city of San Francisco, it’s — and I own a big building there — it’s no — I shouldn’t talk about this but that’s OK I don’t give a damn because this is what I’m doing. I should say it’s the finest city in the world — sell and get the hell out of there, right? But I can’t do that. I don’t care, you know? I lost billions of dollars, billions of dollars. You know, somebody said, ‘What do you think you lost?’ I said, ‘Probably two, three billion. That’s OK, I don’t care.’ They say, ‘You think you’d do it again?’ And that’s the least of it. Nobody. They always say, I don’t know if you know. Lincoln was horribly treated. Uh, Jefferson was pretty horribly. Andrew Jackson they say was the worst of all, that he was treated worse than any other president. I said, ‘Do that study again, because I think there’s nobody close to Trump.’ I even got shot! And who the hell knows where that came from, right?

Same as it ever was

[–] [email protected] 108 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Why do people keep saying this?! Sure, he babbled some when he ran in 2015, but at you could hear the words and insert your own meaning. We can't even pretend to parse anything out of this speech. Hell, his own supporters are walking out on his rallies.

If your grandpa was living alone and conversing with you like this, you would quietly be contemplating a rest home in his very near future. People this far gone can no longer live alone.

Go back to the 80s and 00s and have a listen. Really. Watch a video or three. Doesn't matter if you agree with what he was saying, his speech was clear, on target.

Can't say when I noticed the sharp decline, hard to spot, a boiled frog thing. 2019 I think? Compared to then, the man has fallen off a cliff.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He was a demented sociopathic narcissist in 2016, anyone could have, and did see it, and say it then.

Unfortunately, republiQans are a cult in every literal sense that matters. trump only needs to stay alive and they’ll vote for him.

The fact that he’s worse than ever will be borne by them as a secret shame; no one will talk about it, it makes everyone in the cult uncomfortable, and it will not deter them in the slightest.

It’s 2024 and I think as Americans we still don’t have consensus on how unfathomably broken the republiQans have made politics. It’s virtually unrecognizable from the viewpoint of someone even in the 60’s.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

He was a demented sociopathic narcissist in 2016

Can't say much for his supporters either.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

Even as late as the 2016 RNC debates he was still speaking clearly, responding to his opponents, and occasionally making a coherent point.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

I don't see anything different about his rambling, tbh. I think the only notable difference is him working out nicknames while in front of an audience instead of ahead of time.

His talking points aren't landing, so he's fishing around for something that gets the reaction he's looking for.

I think he would have done the same if "build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" was met with confusion.

He was always this incoherent, but he had "better" slogans to fall back on.

I'd say it's probably more due to him alienating most of his former team, and then surrounding himself with more incompetent yes men, than cognitive decline. His baseline of cognitive capacity wasn't high in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (5 children)

So what happened to San Francisco?

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By the end I completely forgot he was talking about San Francisco, and I think that is the point.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago

He probably did too

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Destroyed, so just completely and totally demolished.

F

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Just like Portland. Burned right to the ground. Never mind all the intact buildings and people living there still. That's just a liberal hoax.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Just like Seattle

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

3 billion Andrew Jackson's

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure T**** just watched the last half of Godzilla (2014) and thought it was a documentary. Obviously it's Harris' fault that Godzilla and the MUTOs destroyed SF. I'm surprised he didn't mention the nuke

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Theodore Roosevelt got shot in fucking lung and still finished his speech. Trump barely or maybe it was glass who knows (literally two weeks later was completely healed) yet got wisk away by four agents then wore a tampon on his ear.

Fuck weird Trump and sounds like he has dementia.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Get your facts straight. It was a menstrual pad, not a tampon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I doubt Trump knows the difference

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nah, he's definitely worse now.

It's just he gets worse at about the same speed we get used to it.

So he's constantly lowering the bar, and if "not trump" is enough, that means everyone else's bar constantly gets lowered as well.

If Dem voter's only standard is not being trump, we end up with people who will take money from anyone

It's pretty much the reason AIPAC is so blatantly buying primary elections these days. They used to hide it, now it's literally "fuck you money" against anyone that calls them out for genocide.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Lol

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean Jackson and Lincoln both got shot, at least Jackson wasn't a bitch about it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and Lincoln had the audacity to die when he got shot. Not very presidential, if you ask me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I like presidents who don't die when they get shot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is way worse than it ever was.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It’s more, yes, but no one should be surprised.