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Highway spending increased by 90% in 2021. This is one of many reasons why car traffic is growing faster than population growth.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Thank you, that is a very interesting insight. But besides sharing cars in parallel (multiple passengers at once) there can also be sequential sharing, which is, I understand, a regular taxi without a driver. But I think that high availability of cars like that, which are cheap, would still reduce the amount of car owners, and consequently increase public transportation utilization.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why do something that complicated when bus and tram lines are way more efficient? Cities need to take the money they apend on subsidizing car ownership and invest it into mass transit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Because trams and busses can't fulfill every need. Certain point to point transportation options still need to exist, we just need to make them as efficient as possible.

And as I mentioned in another comment, ~~turns out busses aren't really as efficient as I thought they were. Fully packed small cars are way more efficient~~.

Edit: Changed my mind. See previous comment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Most cars only ever have 1 person in them, 2 occasionally, and rarely ever more than that inlesst it's a damily trip somewhere. A bus with 5 passengers is taking up less space than 5 cars of any size. Even in mass transit Meccas like The Netherlands obviously still have private cars that people use. But designing transport infrastructure around more efficient methods allows for use cases where a personal car iis necessary fleeting. Obviously moving trucks and delivery vans can't be replaced by a tram. But a well designed city wouldn't require me to drive my car just to pick up eggs and a loaf of bread, or to get a beer at a local bar, or go to a baseball game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sequential sharing isn't sharing. That's how any cab operators functions.

The problems you're mentioning aren't problems with human drivers, but the problems with perfect allocation. Robo taxis won't solve them.