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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A third of Israelis are (family of) refugees/emigrants from the middle-east or north Africa.

It's not a 'white european' country, which you'd know just looking at them.

Imposing simplistic American notions of race on a complicated conflict is stupid and embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, now. That's because they imported Jews from everywhere they could to become Israeli. It started as a European settler project.

But if you look at the positions of power, the government and businesses and celebrities, you'll see mostly white faces. Israel definitely has a white supremacist bent to it - you don't think an Ethiopian Jew will ever be the prime minister do you?

America's white majority is going to disappear too, but you don't think that will actually end American white supremacy right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is always interesting seeing a person be so blatantly racist and not realize it.

Jews have had people there pretty much that entire time. Under the Roman empire, under the Byzantine, under Arabs, under the Ottoman empire, under the British empire.

You seem to know very little about the region. The way you speak of race is certainly American. Not sure how you think the Polish, much less Polish Jews, were treated in the past, but I can assure you it wasn't as a white person.

Further, the Sephardi chief rabbi is middle eastern by any definition (born in Israel, parents born in Iraq). The Ashkenazi chief rabbi is the son of a polish born Holocaust survivor.

There are at least 3.2 Mizrahi Jews in Israel although recent studies suggest around 44% of the population. That means Jews from Israel or the surround middle eastern areas. Are middle easterners white now?

Jews might be considered white in America (sometimes). But what is white in America does not apply to the rest of the world. Even Europe doesn't share the same attitude, I assure you.

It didn't start as a European settler project. Europe was in control of the region post WWI so Jews lobbied in Europe and in the US. Many of which were Mizrahi and/or already having lived in mandate Palestine.

I'm sure you don't even realize what you're saying is racist, but it is. If a person with black parent(s) can pass as white, are they also white? Is their a paper bag test for Jews too? What about one drop? Are all Africans black? Do you know what an average person from Yemen looks like? Egypt? Why didn't Polish and German Jews just be pretend not to be Jewish during the Holocaust since they are white?

Since the human population shares at least two common areas that all current humans came from, how many generations must a group of people exist in a place to say they are descendants of that place? If a person is a jew by birth through European heritage, but is blacker than Obama, and moves to Israel are they a white European Jew or a black minority? Is Bashar al-assad white? Viktor Orban? Gabriel Boric?

Please, can you answer those questions?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

You still see white faces in high places. That's why Europe and America are Israel's greatest supporters - they want an ethnosate in the middle east.

That's why you aren't going to ever see an Ethiopian Prime Minister. Now you're right, race isn't exactly like it is in the US. It actually reminds me more of colorismo in Latin America, where racial prejudice is based more on how dark your skin is than being clear cut along racial lines. Light skinned Asians get to have this privilege in the racial majority.

But there is a racial component to Israel's apartheid regime and its unlimited support from Europe and America, and you have to acknowledge this.