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Have NATO countries complained of CSTO expansion? Has the US been denied entry into CSTO? Has the CSTO expanded against the will of NATO?
It's NATO's fault for consisting of the absolutely most grotesque reaches of Imperialist countries, and expanding against the wishes of non-NATO countries.
Bzzzt wrong. NATO has been expanding long before.
Quite the contrary, you're deliberately erasing historical context.
When and why did Russia start "misbehavin?"
Whataboutism, lmao. East-Germany purged Nazis, that's one of the reasons the west complains that the GDR was authoritarian. NATO was led by Nazis.
Anyone that considers themselves a good person cannot be *pro-*NATO. You can disagree with Russia's invasion of Ukraine without being pro-NATO.
i don't think nato cares about csto
russia is literally doing an imperialism right now, but nato is the one with grotesque reaches, okay
lmao because nato predates russia
and russia started getting into iffy wars basically at its inception
probably because they're an imperialist power? i don't know
okay
So then why bring it up?
Invasion and Imperialism are not the same thing. Regardless of the morality or immorality of invasion, NATO retains its status as Imperialist via surplus extraction and exploitation of the Global South.
This kinda verges on anti-Russian racism, there's no analysis of why you believe this.
You indeed do not know.
The GDR indeed purged Nazis, as they were attacked by western Germany, which largely retained its Nazis.
because it's the closest equivalent to nato? the us also wouldn't be allowed to join brics, if that helps de-confuse you.
please provide a definition for imperialism that doesn't include what russia's doing in ukraine now
says the one who's just been continuously stating without expounding that nato is a collection of spooky imperialist powers
or don't respond to what i posted that's cool too i guess
i think it's pretty clear you don't have much of an argument here, given that this started as "nato is a protection racket" and across 6 replies you've provided absolutely nothing to support that statement past whinging
peace
It's the Russian equivalent, you say, except the power dynamic is entirely different and CSTO isn't expanding. Interesting.
Export of Industrial and Financial Capital to exploited Countries to super-exploit for super-profits, like an international Capitalistic relation. You know, the standard definition Leftists follow.
I have explained how and why, your refusal to read is no longer my problem.
Quite the contrary, your selective reading and blinders mean you can't be reached with words.
alright you get one more, then i kind of need to stop wasting my time with you unless you get more entertaining quickly
because nobody wants to join the alliance run by the country most likely to invade you? "russia is too disliked for their alliance to be popular" or "russia is too incompetent to run an effective alliance" is an incredible argument
why don't we ask azerbaijan and armenia how their membership is going if you're confused as to why csto is unpopular?
ohhhhhhh so you mean like sending in pmcs to countries in africa? or setting up debt traps for countries in africa?
literally nothing you've said has justified nato behaving in an imperialist way, other than your definition of imperialism, which includes russia and china, so good job
to paraphrase you, "membership expansion isn't imperialism", which is the only thing you've been arguing over, which is wild when the thing you're meant to be justifying is that "nato is a protection racket".
i don't think you know what a protection racket is