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waiting until the usual lemmy suspects show up to be like "iM vOtInG tHiRd PaRtY tHeY aReNt SpOiLeR cAnDiDaTes" my guy the republicans have literally said out loud that they are supporting these spoiler candidates as spoilers, if you're voting for them, you are voting for trump.
The "socialist" and "Green party" posters who somehow are shocked, shocked you would call them pro-Trump astroturf accounts, when every action they take coincidentally has the effect of helping Trump.
The real giveaway is their refusal to equally assess left and right-wing threats. When it comes to voting for a democrat, any imperfection is an absolute justification for voting third party. When someone points out Trump will get into office because of it and what that means to Gaza, green policies, etc, they gish gallop and strawman until the conversation is fully derailed.
My view as an anarchosocialist is that we have to do everything we can to get the best possible result every step of the way. We don't live in a country in the US that allows us to vote any way but strategically. We must always be assessing what the best outcome we can get in any given situation is. Unfortunately in electoral politics that often means the most compromised candidate because anyone else will result in a regressive. The question becomes "what do we do after the election to press the government into actually representing us"
In a lot of ways I think that's voting blue no matter who until the regressive party is made irrelevant. Once the regressive party is irrelevant we can start treating the dems as the regressives they truly are and working on getting election reform and ranked choice voting. We can't get any of that if we allow for any room for a Donald Trump presidency. He wants to blow up the entire system and fill the power vacuum with his own self. For the rest of us who want to dismantle the entire system, the purpose is not to have a dictator, but rather to eliminate hierarchy. We are in an extremely dangerous position this year. If we're ever going to disrupt the powers that be, we can't ever allow for any kind of monarch as that's a step 300 years backwards.
So my advice? Vote for Harris, and then take to the streets and protest the ways she doesn't represent us. Palestine deserves to be free. Oppressed peoples deserve reparations. The cold war was a modern race to rape Africa a la the late 19th century and the peoples harmed in the mad scramble to see if capitalism or Bolshevism was more effective at spreading cannot recover until we fundamentally decolonize the world. The cost of the suffering we inflict doesn't even need to be viewed abroad to be seen. Appalachian coal fields and fracking operations are acts of violence against the land and the people who live on it. Prison labor is a form of slavery and is only palatable to our modern sensibilities as we contrast it with the peculiar institution of chattel slavery instead of comparing it with the history of slavery throughout time. The only opportunities we afford native Americans to live on the land we stole from them is if they pay us in money whose value is rooted in the value of that very stolen land via the mortgage system.
Don't let Donald Trump be president. Don't let President Harris off the hook for the violence the position she is taking over is responsible for.
I'll take that luxury gay space communism any time, but until then...
That's the same for me. One party there is an option for better in the future, the other.... Will literally be burning that future in a fire.
I had almost forgotten reasonable anarchosocialists still exist on the internet.
Thank you.
Not even kidding, it made me cry. I was a young idealist, and now I'm an old pragmatist. But this post gave me faith in others, and a renewed sense of idealism as the reward for pragmatism. Thriving instead of surviving is on the hope menu again.
It's even more hilarious when I checked the profile of one of those high-volume "green party" posters and found them copy-pasting a bunch of overtly racist articles in the conservative comm. Almost like they forgot to switch alt accounts or something.
And have you ever noticed how it's always one side denying who they're promoting. I mean, how often do you see someone secretly propping up a Democratic candidate and deny it when called out on it? It's almost as if they're embarrassed to admit they like trump.
yeah, it's very suspicious indeeed...
Or they'll be incredibly condescending towards you, with some smug sense of superiority and self-righteousness.
"I'm a very lefty leftist, I hate fascism, that's why this election season I am voting exactly the way the furthest right party wants me to."
I'm pretty sure we can convince a significant portion of the MAGA crowd to vote third party, by informing them it's impossible for Trump to win without a large turnout for third parties. 🤔
Brilliant!!!
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