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Near midnight last week, Democratic delegates with the Uncommitted movement sat in protest outside Chicago’s United Center. Elected by hundreds of thousands of primary voters who oppose President Joe Biden’s response to the war in Gaza, the delegates were sent to the DNC “uncommitted”—not pledged to support any candidate at the convention. Earlier in the week, the group did what they were elected to do by calling for a permanent ceasefire and immediate arms embargo. They also continued a simpler request they’d started making before the convention: a spot for a speaker on the main stage to talk about Palestine.

On Wednesday evening, the DNC and Harris campaign finally told them that no Palestinian American would be allowed to speak from the main stage of the convention. Here was their last ditch effort. They hoped a sit-in—and the Civil Rights history it evoked—would push party leaders to change their minds.

Despite being a group of staunch Democrats working to affect change from within the party, the Harris campaign—and many Democrats—mostly treated Uncommitted and their allies as outsiders ruining a party at the DNC. And, often, it seemed without even understanding what they were saying or where agreement could be had. The result was a four-day convention that managed to find space for seemingly everyone on the main stage except those willing to speak personally about what is happening in Palestine.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you think it's more important that they perform empty virtue signaling and lose. To a group that has stated they'll make the Palestinian deaths worse. Than to actually do what it takes to get elected. And reduce Palestinian deaths.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not supplying weapons and money to Israel isn't empty virtue signalling.

Than to actually do what it takes to get elected. And reduce Palestinian deaths.

They have zero intention of reducing Palestinian deaths if elected.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But how could they even hope to do that without being elected. You're literally saying that you would rather see them say they would cut off an ally like Israel and lose. Able to neither cut off Israel nor help the Palestinians. Than for them to be diplomatic and appeal to the largest group possible to actually win an election and possibly help the Palestinians. It seems pretty empty to me when it gives nothing of value in return. You can tell yourself that you're morally Superior to other people but Palestinians still die. What good are your morals then?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Because

They

Have

No

Intention

Of

Helping

Israel

Can I make it any more clear for you?

They have shown that they will have to be dragged into stopping enabling genocide. If they get what they want and win the election, there is zero leverage to drag them anywhere; pressure must be applied before the election for the course to be changed.

It is pure cope to say “Oh just vote and like idk maybe they’ll totally stop being cool with genocide if you’re lucky”.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Absolutely you could. You can provide any clear evidence that that's the case. There is no such clear evidence. It's a shit take of a position. I mean it's your prerogative if you want to imply that to Democrats like ilhan Omar or Bernie Sanders want to see Palestinians dead. They've clearly signaled otherwise. As have many others. You're free to go on misrepresenting the situation and behaving childishly reductive. But I'm also free to keep pointing it out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Because

They

Have

No

Intention

Of

Helping

Israel

Can I make it any more clear for you?

Clear as mud unless there is a typo. No intention of helping Israel sounds fine to me.