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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

What would happen if people deserted Google products in droves?

Mail:

Cloud:

  • Mega [referral URL]

Maps:

Meet:

Calendar:

Here's an exhaustive list of Mostly excellent “free” software that I use.

Please also consider supporting the myriad of developers who offer their superior products for free, open source, without ads.

“What if I paid for all my free software?
I've always felt guilty by taking for granted the rare breed of virtuous humans that provide free excellent software without relying on advertising. Let's change that and pay, how much would I “lose” anyway?” —https://www.cynicusrex.com/file/takemymoney.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Matrix is general-purpose chat. Meet will be replaced with Jitsi.

Also why not nextcloud for storage on someone else's computer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Not a fan of Vivaldi, but that's the spirit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why not use Keybase for cloud and proton for mail?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I dropped all their services as soon as Proton promoted crypto"currencies", i.e., multi-level marketing pyramid schemes.
Haven't tried Keybase yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you disagree with their reason?

Responsible financial diversification requires holding some assets outside of the traditional government controlled banking system.

They didn't say they were going all in. They aren't continuously promoting - at least not that I'm aware. They were just being open and honest about how they're handling their finances.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

”Do you disagree with their reason?

Responsible financial diversification requires holding some assets outside of the traditional government controlled banking system.

They didn’t say they were going all in. They aren’t continuously promoting - at least not that I’m aware. They were just being open and honest about how they’re handling their finances.”

I absolutely disagree.

  1. “Responsible” and “Bitcoin” is an oxymoron due to the inherent multi-level marketing pyramid/Ponzi scheme aspect of crypto“currencies”.
  2. Money corrupts; bitcoin corrupts absolutely.
    Disregarding all of bitcoin's shortcomings, a financial instrument that brings out the worst in people—greed—won't change the world for the better.” —https://www.cynicusrex.com/file/cryptocultscience.html
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Responsible” and “Bitcoin” is an oxymoron due to the inherent multi-level marketing pyramid/Ponzi scheme aspect of crypto“currencies”.

First, you're removing the next two words "financial diversification" from the statement. Your own personal opinions and emotions aside, financial diversification is not a bad idea. It's all about percentages and risk calculations. I would agree with you if they went "all in" on crypto, but they didn't say that.

Second, you're lumping in bad people with good tech that has solved a very specific problem - the ability to transfer funds without relying on a central bank or authority. Is email bad because the majority is spam? No. Is the internet bad because the dark web exists and thousands if not millions of crimes are being carried out on it? No. Are encrypted messengers bad because they allow criminals to send message? No. Same concept here. There can exist a good technology that gets abused by bad people.

“Money corrupts; bitcoin corrupts absolutely.

You can stop at "money corrupts". bitcoin is money and money corrupts.

Disregarding all of bitcoin's shortcomings, a financial instrument that brings out the worst in people—greed—won't change the world for the better.”

Disregarding all of the U.S. Dollar's shortcomings[1], a financial instrument that brings out the worst in people—greed—won't change the world for the better.”

Fixed it for you.

[1] The US spent 877 BILLION dollars on its defense budget (as much as the next 10 countries combined!) to ensure the USD keeps its power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Responsible” and “Bitcoin” is an oxymoron due to the inherent multi-level marketing pyramid/Ponzi scheme aspect of crypto“currencies”.

First, you’re removing the next two words “financial diversification” from the statement. Your own personal opinions and emotions aside, financial diversification is not a bad idea. It’s all about percentages and risk calculations. I would agree with you if they went “all in” on crypto, but they didn’t say that.

Gambling or buying into a pyramid scheme doesn't belong to the category of financial diversification, let alone responsible financial diversification. Responsible financial diversification is investing in skills, property, purchasing cooperatives, official/institutional crowdfunding projects with sustainability in mind—not purely profit, ethical index funds, et cetera.

Second, you’re lumping in bad people with good tech that has solved a very specific problem - the ability to transfer funds without relying on a central bank or authority. Is email bad because the majority is spam? No. Is the internet bad because the dark web exists and thousands if not millions of crimes are being carried out on it? No. Are encrypted messengers bad because they allow criminals to send message? No. Same concept here. There can exist a good technology that gets abused by bad people.

All whataboutism fallacies. Crypto“currencies” incentivize greed. Not so for email, the Internet, messengers, et cetera. The only legitimate usecase for these alternative currencies is financing whistleblowers, journalists, individuals who have to break unethical laws and are therefore disconnected from the banking system.

“Money corrupts; bitcoin corrupts absolutely.

You can stop at “money corrupts”. bitcoin is money and money corrupts.

Bitcoin more so because of its multi-level marketing / pyramid scheme aspect. When one buys USD or EUR one doesn't try convincing their peers to buy it too so their own wealth goes up.

Disregarding all of bitcoin’s shortcomings, a financial instrument that brings out the worst in people—greed—won’t change the world for the better.”

Disregarding all of the U.S. Dollar’s shortcomings[1], a financial instrument that brings out the worst in people—greed—won’t change the world for the better.”

Fixed it for you.

[1] The US spent 877 BILLION dollars on its defense budget (as much as the next 10 countries combined!) to ensure the USD keeps its power.

Whataboutism fallacy again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

agree to disagree

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry but no, MEGA is good. It's consistently rated among the best for privacy, performance and price. Imho Proton Drive is the best and most promising though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Good if you use mega as your main cloud drive but bad for anyone else who got capped at 5gb and have to download inside the browser or use their app