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On the final, and most anticipated, night of the four-day Chicago convention, Harris, 59, promised to chart a "New Way Forward" as she and Trump, 78, enter the final 11 weeks of the razor-close campaign.

After days of protests from Palestinian supporters who were disappointed at not getting a speaking spot at the convention, Harris delivered a pledge to secure Israel, bring the hostages home from Gaza and end the war in the Palestinian enclave.

"Now is the time to get a hostage deal and a ceasefire deal done," she said to cheers. "And let me be clear, I will always stand up for Israel's right to defend itself and I will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself."

"What has happened in Gaza over the past 10 months is devastating. So many innocent lives lost, desperate hungry people fleeing for safety over and over again. The scale of suffering is heartbreaking," she said.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’m honestly going to have to wait until the rubber actually hits the road (read: until she actually has the authority to meaningfully act and define national policy without AIPAC threatening to dump money into Trump’s wallet if she refuses to support Bibi’s agenda). I’m not being glib, or suggesting we ignore Gaza and the genocide there. All I’m saying is that I’m basically certain that there’s WAY more behind the scenes strong-arming-with-campaign-money going on here than most people are willing to admit.

All that said, if she doesn’t shift course relatively quickly once she clinches the election, my opinion on her stance on Gaza is going to change drastically.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Her speech was about increasing the war machine and never stopping support. So doubt she'll change much but can hope. Not that hopes done much since Obama

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While I do get what you’re saying on some level, I feel like you’re ignoring how much AIPAC’s threat of throwing their cash towards the fascists sucks the air out of the room and makes rational discussion of the topic extremely difficult.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Placating them only makes things worse

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, interpreting the world in color instead of black and white certainly makes things more complicated.

And I guess complexity and nuance are bad, from your point of view.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

Let me know when they start using complexity and nuance. Cause right now they're fully going in with aipac.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I mean, she could spring it on everyone at the last minute. Like Friday before the election, come out in support of an arms embargo. It's all anyone would be talking about and it wouldn't matter how much money AIPAC shoves out the door.

Of course, she won't, because we'll keep unconditionally arming Netanyahu as he starts war after war to stay in power. If we don't start sending troops to protect Netanyahu's political career.