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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (13 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (11 children)

She does not want to talk about it. However she has actually a pretty good record of supporting climate action like sponsoring the Green New Deal, which she mostly got passed in form of the inflation reduction act. Action is worth so much more then words.

The reason she does not want to do it, is that it is better to run on women's rights and workers rights. Trump has an awful record on it as well and a lot more people care about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. The unfortunate conclusion here is they think that many people (particularly voters they feel are critical to this election) don't actually care about the climate. They're probably right too. So while the DNC platform is clear on their stance, they don't see it as a winning issue from a campaign perspective. Frankly that's not the worst outcome, I care more about action than campaign slogans. They need to win in order to do anything.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is just about the most gullible, masochistic perspective I have ever seen. Of course an overwhelming MAJORITY of Democrats support clean energy and would be more likely to vote for Kamala if she put it on her platform.

In a previous Center survey conducted in 2022, nearly the same share of Americans (69%) favored the U.S. taking steps to become carbon neutral by 2050, a goal outlined by President Joe Biden at the outset of his administration. Carbon neutrality means releasing no more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than is removed. Nine-in-ten Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents say the U.S. should prioritize developing alternative energy sources to address America’s energy supply. Among Republicans and Republican leaners, 42% support developing alternative energy sources, while 58% say the country should prioritize expanding exploration and production of oil, coal and natural gas. There are important differences by age within the GOP. Two-thirds of Republicans under age 30 (67%) prioritize the development of alternative energy sources. By contrast, 75% of Republicans ages 65 and older prioritize expanding the production of oil, coal and natural gas.

Campaign promises are accepted as goals not set in stone objectives. For example: Joe Biden famously said he would “cure cancer” when he ran in 2020. Tell me, did he cure cancer? How many people criticized him for going back on that campaign promise? Do you see my point? She could promise Single Payer and clean energy and not give it to us but her donors WON’T EVEN LET HER DO THAT in much the same way that they wouldn’t allow a Palestinian to make a speech in front of the DNC yesterday.

They would literally rather lose the presidential election than allow the DNC to be taken over by actual leftists. They like Trumpism because it allows them to stand for exactly nothing other than “not Trump” and if they lose, they can fundraise off of this impending “threat to democracy” in the coming election cycle while allowing their Overton window to ratchet ever-rightward…and you’ll be right there cheering for them, excusing massive election fraud in their primaries (if they even hold a primary) to pick their candidate, falling in line, uncritically letting them convince you that as the years pass, better things are increasingly less and less possible because they are “the adults in the room.”

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