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Dimensity 9300 CPU Frequency Revealed – Unmatched Power Beats Snapdragon 8 Gen3 (sparrowsnews.com)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's a good chance Qualcomm will beat it on efficiency.

This will probably still be among the most efficient SOC's when it comes out. The new designs may have some improvements, and I'm guessing this is 3nm instead of 4 which was the best previously available.

It's cool that we have an alternative to Qualcomm for high performance on Android.

Edit:

https://www.techadvisor.com/article/1935476/mediatek-dimensity-9300.html

It should also be noted that Arm claims the X4 has 40% better power efficiency than the previous generation

I doubt efficiency will be much of a problem for the Mediatek Dimensity 9300. This is a beast!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even with higher efficiency than last year, could it match the efficiency of a small core when doing next to nothing while the phone is idle? Feel like they should've included at least a single small core for that purpose

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Typical decent phones can run for 4-5 days on idle, so I don't think that will be a problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Typical decent phones also have small cores.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course they have, the point is that Idle is not a huge problem, unless it's important to you that your phone can idle for 5 days. This may probably be slightly less, but so what if it's 4 days instead of 5?

The real problem is how much daily use you get out of your phone, and in that regard, this new SOC will beat everything currently in existence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course they have, the point is that Idle is not a huge problem, unless it’s important to you that your phone can idle for 5 days. This may probably be slightly less, but so what if it’s 4 days instead of 5?

How do you arrive at 4 days vs. 5? Do you have power draw numbers in idle state for the different CPUs? I wasn't able to find much, though the manual for the ARM low-power cores suggests a lot of optimizations that aren't available on the bigger cores.

The real problem is how much daily use you get out of your phone, and in that regard, this new SOC will beat everything currently in existence.

Maybe for you, but not for everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why don't you go complain about the Tensor chips somewhere?

They are poor to average performers with tiny cores, the Pixel 7A only has 3 days battery life.

https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_7a-12170.php

Did you make any posts at least questioning whether that is better with the new Tensor G3?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? You made a weird claim to which I responded. Why are you asking me if I question some other chip?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My claim is not weird, the data we have supports it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can you show me the data you have on the power draw of this CPU in idle mode compared to CPUs with small cores? I'd love to see it, but so far you've linked info about tensor chips?