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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (17 children)

A prolonged incursion into Russia could escalate the conflict, drawing in other nations and potentially leading to a catastrophic global confrontation.

Bit of a joke to write this, isn't it. The one country that is escalating things is Russia. They could have always moved back and have given up and this would all be over. Maybe Ukraine would leave the Russian territory if Russia leaves Ukrainian territory? Not sure that's on the table.

Edit: coming back to all the reactions. Just wow, hilarious.

Edit2: haha, they even come back to monitor edits. Fun times.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (38 children)

They could have always moved back and have given up and this would all be over.

Ukraine could surrender at any time and this would all be over smuglord

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago

Lmao what? Eeww dude, gross, your brain is leaking onto my shoe

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"The winning side could simply surrender and give everything back"

I am a geopolitical mastermind

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Winning side 🤔

Edit: misread lol, yeah Russia absolutely is winning

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

I know personally I think the winning side is the one that's lost all important strategic territory, has lost most of its male population, literally has to kidnap people to conscript them, and has recently spent buckets of its own blood taking territory that not only doesn't matter but would be impossible to hold if they wanted to

#winning

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The one country that is escalating things is Russia. They could have always moved back and have given up and this would all be over.

Are you fucking serious

What do you call expanding NATO? You think that isn't escalation because, what, "it's a defensive pact"? You really don't see how a country like Russia could view an encirclement of "defensive" pacts as aggressive, when it has constantly stated that Ukraine joining NATO is a red line?

You don't think NATO discussing sending NUKES TO UKRAINE, putting them within MINUTES OF MOSCOW, is in any way an escalation?

What the FUCK is wrong with you fucking people

NATO could have simply not attempted to expand, Ukraine could have simply honored the Minsk agreement and stopped genociding Russians in the Donbas, but you don't say shit like that, you think it's entirely on Russia. Brainwashed ass motherfucker

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you know what escalation means? Russia hasn't escalated shit since it launched the invasion. Each thing Russia has done since the invasion is part of the invasion. They haven't attacked other nations, they haven't embargoed or disrupted trade beyond their own borders, they haven't introduced new weapons platforms, they haven't made attempts to decapitate Ukrainian leadership.

Ukraine and the West are escalating. They've been escalating literally since the end of the Cold War. Each country on the border of Russia that got NATO nuclear sites was an escalation. Each color revolution was an escalation. Each sanction was an escalation. Each call for a no fly zone was an escalation. Each new weapons platform sent to Ukraine was an escalation. Each use of Western military intelligence to coordinate Ukrainian strikes was an escalation. Each time Ukraine struck civilian infrastructure inside Russia was an escalation.

You are using words you hear people say but you don't understand them.

Russia has had one demand since the USSR was dismantled - no NATO operations in Ukraine. When the USA escalated and supported the coup in 2014, Russia escalated and took Crimea. When the fascists in Ukraine escalated and sent paramilitary forces to terrorize and mass murder ethnic Russians, Russia escalated with paramilitary of its own in the region. When Ukraine escalated by pursuing NATO operations in its country and NATO made noise like it might, like when Trump escalated and approved the first weapons shipment to Ukraine in US history, Russia escalated by invading the border region. That's all of Russia's escalatory moves - 1 every 5 years or so. It's Ukraine and the West that have escalated since then. Sanctioning Russia was an escalation. Seizing Russian assets in violation of international law was an escalation. Sending lethal aid each year totalling more than the entire Russian military budget was an escalation. Sending Western intelligence, trainers, and even combatants to harm Russia are all escalatory moves.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

They also could have done to Ukraine what Israel has done to Palestine, destroy all vital infrastructure and plunge the population into the stone age

But no, the libs are right, putin just keeps escalating omg the escalator is reaching into space!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (11 children)


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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Edit: coming back to all the reactions. Just wow, hilarious.

It's okay to admit you're incapable of grappling with reality and prefer to stay inside your NATO mind palace

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The one country that is escalating things is Russia.

This war is literally only happening because of the US and the other countries in NATO. Don't think you should be writing such pithy statements if your understanding of the war is equivalent to a Star Wars plotline.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

At least in Star Wars they explain the context with the scroll at the start of the movie, libs think that Ukraine literally popped into existence in 2022.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

They don't even remember what Trump's first impeachment was about

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