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    submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
     

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    [–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Walter White did nothing wrong.

    [–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    For a guy fighting against terminal cancer with no hope of help, he sure was quick to use euthanasia on someone that could have had lots of options in treatment.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

    The only terminal cancer worth mentioning around here is MS-DOS.

    [–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Surely losing the bagage and making the money he needed to setup his family was the priority in that case?

    Jesse was a tool, he needed that tool to achieve his goals in a limited time frame, rehabing two addicts is time consuming and difficult under the best circumstances.

    A bit of a sociopath take sure, but Heisenberg may have been one in the end.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    That was, in fact, wrong.

    Just because there is a high priority present doesn't magically make it ok to throw your humanity out the window... Why do I have to explain this!? Are you a sociopath?!

    That ENTIRE SHOW was about how he had many chances to choose to not be a piece of shit. Every spiral was because of him. He is, in fact, a terrible person, and the fact you cannot understand that is concerning. Having one singular noble goal does NOT magically absolve him of all of his terrible decisions.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    He didn't even have a noble goal, that was the excuse. All he did was because he wanted to.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    My original reply was joking about killing Windows not being wrong, then obviously we’ve pivoted into talking about the actual show.

    Two separate sentiments entirely.

    Walter was a monster who put his own ambitions above others needs, safety and lives. You happy I cleared that up?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I'm sure "she used windows" will hold up in court

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    it would in my court

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Just because there is a high priority present doesn’t magically make it ok to throw your humanity out the window… Why do I have to explain this!? Are you a sociopath?!

    this is exactly the struggle of the early 21st century.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    Those problems persist to this day. Just like how Trump (didn't) delt with COVID.

    "The economy" took precedence over peoples' health, even though peoples' activity makes the economy... By allowing so many to die, the US' economy will produce far less than it would have for decades to come. They failed even at the direct goal they were aiming for...

    The short-sightedness is the problem. People who think they even can defocus on any goal are only succeeding in deluding themselves.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I think you're misreading the comment, they clearly were speaking about Walter's point of view and motivations.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    They started out by saying Walter White did nothing wrong.

    Then they followed up by describing WW actions as a sociopath. Which makes what he did, in fact, wrong.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    IIRC he passed up a full ride of chemo treatment, and his family getting taken care of by his rich friend all to serve his ego.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I don't think they were being serious. There's plenty of wrong things he did.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

    I have like zero ability to determine when people are joking, and the internet only makes it worse :/

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    I want to know the general opinion on this:

    [SPOILERS AHEAD]

    spoiler

    Was Walter trying to save Jesse from going down a spiral of hard drugs or was he just trying to keep Jesse clean for work?

    The other option is that he is just an ass and he kind of wanted to see her die.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    When I saw this scene I kind of saw him realising both were a big win for him personally which was why the decision was made

    BTW not sure if it's just my client (eternity) but your spoiler tags didn't work

    Edit. Look what just popped up https://feddit.nl/post/19814905

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It is your client, the tag renders correctly on browser and Voyager

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Weird, I'm using eternity (nightly) and it rendered fine

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    Possible they haven't updated, or something with your OS or a dependency is different.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    Yet it doesn't work on Sync for Lemmy

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    I always inclined myself for the first one. I mean, saving Jesse. But it could be just me trying to still see a human being in WW.

    About the spoiler, i cant see it either. I thought it was a Boost only issue. Will add a better sign for the unspoiled to come.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    IMO Walt saw that he was losing control over Jesse and he didn't like that. He did what he did to Jane in order regain that control. I dont think it was an act of altruism.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

    I like this take. I think it's much more consistent with the character.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    Mlem doesn’t render these either

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    I think the point was, simply, that there was a clear moral path (albeit a difficult one) and he chose...not that. And someone innocent was harmed as a result.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

    He was eliminating a rival, nothing more

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

    Some might call him a hero