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I understand that it may be problematic sometimes but this was very smooth. I didn't even say anything.

A: what's your number for the whatsapp group Me: I don't have whatsapp because of facebook. B: ok, we have to use signal then A: ok

And that was it. Life can be very easy sometimes

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

SMS is still the dominant message format in some countries

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Doesn't every phone have an SMS app? What's the benefit of having SMS in signal?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the core benefit was in adoption. it was easy to get parents, for example, saying that they jist have to bother with one app for all of their messaging.

the minute they have to contend with sms and signal, they don't mind adding whatsapp in the mix as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Conversely, they do mind having multiple apps and only send sms

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I mean, if the main draw-card is convenience, then signal isn't going to have much holding power (especially when combined with the network affect problem and attentions grabbing design of other message apps).

Signal will only really succeed if there is a critical mass of people in your circles who care about security to some degree (it works well for me for this reason).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Not having to guess which app has the person you'd like to contact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The benefit is that Signal displaces the default sms app and is also Signal. Rather than having to jump between 2 apps.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Well, they partly took that "feature" away because people thought they were sending encrypted SMS messages which is not true. False sense of security.

They just took the secure high road and ditched SMS. It also made the app leaner with a smaller attack surface.

I think they did the right decision. Signal is the secure choice for the masses.

Having said that, I'm using Molly-Foss as it has less footprints, no Google messaging framework, leaner than Signal, with no crypto payment, and an encrypted database at rest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sms is also not secure, kinda not what signal is...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Signal started out as textsecure, an sms/mms app that encrypted your text messages. It quietly started sending messages over its server at one point after an update, but before that sms is what it was about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That's interesting, I was always under the impression they were moving away from sms because they wanted a more secure client.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But you are already on Signal.

Also I live in a country where SMS is very common