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Baby boomers are fleeing Donald Trump and switching allegiance to Harris
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2024
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I can't believe Walz and Vance have the same favorable view.
That's what you get when fox news spouts outright lies and deception 24/7, when facebook controls the algorithm and gives zero fucks about content moderation, when campaigns are able to spend millions on attack ads, etc.
The U.S. election system is a joke.
FTFY
You're not wrong.
Imagine if you will a world so ignorant that its citizens could be unsure of a candidate like Trump or Harris, and then decide to vote for the other. This is America.
The aristocrats.
He's nationally unknown. As people get to know him more you'll see his favorable grow. Vance's won't.
The larger number of 'not sure' may be due to having three extra weeks of knowing of Vance. Some people either are truly not sure or at least want to sound like they are carefully evaluating a candidate they only heard about in the last couple of weeks.
That's true.
People like my mother, who, when asked about Vance responds “I’ve yet to read his works”; when asked about Walz “oh you mean Tom Cilz, right?”
Its the lead poisoning
A lot of this is generically partisan. Walz has a 10% higher "Never heard of him" figure, and that's going to change depending on how the media frames him. I'm less worried about what actual Republican media tries (they've been pretty ham-handed with their early snipes) and much more worried what we're going to see out of the Papers Of Record, given that the NYT/WaPo Op-Ed boards were seriously gunning for Shapiro and now they're all being pissy about it.
But I also think Trump's kinda-sorta right, in saying that people don't really care about your VP. These are going to be hyper-partisan elections. The idea that you're going to have Republicans break ranks for Harris because of Walz feels overly optimistic. Not when they're still stuck on the FOX News bandwagon, and they're inevitably going to get an earful about how Tim personally lead a delegation of illegal Chinese Muslim Immigrants to a factory town in Ohio to hold up the jobs factory and steal all the jobs.
Overall favorability is going to decay as the parties go hard into the negative ads. And I fully believe this is going to be one of the grossest elections of my lifetime, what with Dems finally deciding to be mean to Republicans and Republicans being even more desperate and hysterical than usual.
Those numbers are such bullshit. 538 has just a solid line of 39% or whatever the fuck. Literally nothing makes a difference. You know, we used to put world events on these graphs and see how the populace responded. Now… just line. They’re not human.
You can make a poll give you any result you want. Just like with elections and gerrymandering.