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Voters over 70 are backing Harris over Trump, 51 to 48 percent, Emerson College poll finds

A new poll shows some baby boomers and members of the Silent Generation are switching allegiances from former President Donald Trump to Vice President Kamala Harris. 

The Emerson College poll released Thursday  shows voters over 70 backing Harris over Trump 51 to 48 percent. That’s a small but positive shift for Harris, as last month, 50 percent of the group supported Trump while 48 percent backed President Joe Biden, who dropped out of the race and endorsed Harris last month.

The group includes some baby boomers, who were born between 1946 and 1964, and the Silent Generation, born between 1925 and 1945.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

When it comes to Harris’s running mate Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, 39 percent of voters have a favorable view. The same number has a favorable view of Trump’s number two, Ohio Senator JD Vance.

But 49 percent of voters have an unfavorable view of Vance while only 39 percent have an unfavorable view of Walz.

I can't believe Walz and Vance have the same favorable view.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's what you get when fox news spouts outright lies and deception 24/7, when facebook controls the algorithm and gives zero fucks about content moderation, when campaigns are able to spend millions on attack ads, etc.

The U.S. election system is a joke.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The U.S. ~~election system~~ is a joke.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Imagine if you will a world so ignorant that its citizens could be unsure of a candidate like Trump or Harris, and then decide to vote for the other. This is America.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The U.S. election system is a joke.

The aristocrats.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

He's nationally unknown. As people get to know him more you'll see his favorable grow. Vance's won't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The larger number of 'not sure' may be due to having three extra weeks of knowing of Vance. Some people either are truly not sure or at least want to sound like they are carefully evaluating a candidate they only heard about in the last couple of weeks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

People like my mother, who, when asked about Vance responds “I’ve yet to read his works”; when asked about Walz “oh you mean Tom Cilz, right?”

Its the lead poisoning

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I can’t believe Walz and Vance have the same favorable view.

A lot of this is generically partisan. Walz has a 10% higher "Never heard of him" figure, and that's going to change depending on how the media frames him. I'm less worried about what actual Republican media tries (they've been pretty ham-handed with their early snipes) and much more worried what we're going to see out of the Papers Of Record, given that the NYT/WaPo Op-Ed boards were seriously gunning for Shapiro and now they're all being pissy about it.

But I also think Trump's kinda-sorta right, in saying that people don't really care about your VP. These are going to be hyper-partisan elections. The idea that you're going to have Republicans break ranks for Harris because of Walz feels overly optimistic. Not when they're still stuck on the FOX News bandwagon, and they're inevitably going to get an earful about how Tim personally lead a delegation of illegal Chinese Muslim Immigrants to a factory town in Ohio to hold up the jobs factory and steal all the jobs.

Overall favorability is going to decay as the parties go hard into the negative ads. And I fully believe this is going to be one of the grossest elections of my lifetime, what with Dems finally deciding to be mean to Republicans and Republicans being even more desperate and hysterical than usual.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Those numbers are such bullshit. 538 has just a solid line of 39% or whatever the fuck. Literally nothing makes a difference. You know, we used to put world events on these graphs and see how the populace responded. Now… just line. They’re not human.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

You can make a poll give you any result you want. Just like with elections and gerrymandering.