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WDYM? English Wikipedia article on T-34 also mentions origin from Christie's designs.
I see the problem. I'm talking about the T-34's great grandpa and you're talking about its dad.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-18_tank
You:
vs
The article you link:
You were simply wrong.
That same article:
Tl;Dr
Renault FT->T-18->T-24->BT-7->T-34
Tank design simply does not happen in a vacuum, they are very rarely designing a new tank from the ground up. They incorporate proven techniques and mechanics from preceding designs with new ideas (like the Christie suspension) until they come up with a (hopefully) working model.
By the time you're five generations deep the only thing they might still have in common is the rotating turret, but that doesn't mean it's not a design descendant.
Further, the Renault FT is considered the ancestor of all modern tank designs regardless of everything else. It's just interesting in the Soviet case that they got their start reverse engineering some captured examples.
So unable to accept being proven wrong you descended into elementary school level ad hominem attacks, pathetic.
Lol, that's not even an ad hominem.
Okay bro, enjoy going through life not understanding the design ancestry of the T-34, see how far that gets you 🤪