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Could you please provide those stats? Skimming thru the Wikipedia article on pit bulls, it seems there's no clear evidence that pit bulls are significantly more dangerous that other dog breeds of similar size.
https://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/2009-dog-attack-deaths-maminings-merritt-clifton.pdf
You mean these stats from a 32 your study of US and Canada from 1982 to 2009 that shows over 60% of dog attacks from from pitbulls? Here's a collections of yearly reported dog attacks.
https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities.php
Here's a few studies on the medical significance of dog bites and breed.
https://www.nationalpitbullvictimawareness.org/articles/medical-studies-on-pit-bulls/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34100808/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51034290_Mortality_Mauling_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4261032/
https://www.plasticsurgery.org/news/press-releases/complex-dog-bites-in-children-experience-and-recommended-treatment
And how about breed specific behavior studies?
https://bmcgenomics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12864-016-2936-3
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/509315v1
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233995885_Breed_differences_in_canine_aggression
These are just a few of dozens of studies and reports that have been done on dogs attacks and biology.
The Fifth Estate also has a good video with proponents of both sides. https://youtu.be/iFa8HOdegZA
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LMFAO, alright reading this thread again... the person gave up talking to you because you cited sources. And here I was about to dig through my reddit posts to grab my copy-pasta... They won't respond to you, so I assume they wont to me... So no point in putting the work in if they're arguing in such bad faith.
Thanks for the logical and well-sourced post!
I am surprised the first response I got was not an attack. The pro pit propaganda runs hard and encouraged pretty rabbid harassment. I don't blame people that don't know for defending pits. It's the ones that argue in bad faith and ignore obvious data that are the problem. There's a reason why pits, and only pits, need to be defended so aggressively. All it takes is just googling reports of actual dog attacks to see almost all of the reports involved a pit or pit mix. Hell all you have to do is Google pictures of pitbulls vs porcupines and then compare those to literally any other dog breed vs porcupines. Normal dogs take a hit and get deterred out of their natural survival and pain avoidance instincts. Pits just maul them harder till they all but kill themselves. That's what happens when you breed some poor animal to fight to the death against other animals. It's tragic what we have bred into these dogs and even more tragic that instead of taking responsibility for it and at least attempting to breed it out and/or restrict breeding, we double down and make more and more lies about them that get innocent people maimed and killed. Then when people try to point all this out they get harassed to no end.
You're preaching to the choir. I still visit reddit without logging in sometimes to visit /r/banpitbulls specifically just to see the monthly tallies... It's sad that hundreds of people can have their lives changed every month... But nah, velvet hippo (completely missing the fact that hippos are STUPID dangerous... like I'll take my chances with any snake/spider/etc...).
Also another fact that gets brought up is that chihuahuas and pomeranians bite more often!... Right... and maybe drew blood on accident? Pitbulls just rip your hand off... then go for your neck. If that's the defense... it's a terrible one... and they never admit it.
Don't use Wikipedia as your source, that's rule number one. Look at the cdc