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[–] [email protected] 182 points 3 months ago (14 children)

russians prove they can’t win anything legitimately

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

...this was a regional tournament, in the Caucasus Republic of Dagestan.

So calling them Russian is technically accurate, but really they are a brutalized and subjugated colonial subject of Russia.

Also, you'll find this kind of crazy anywhere you go. She literally just dumped mercury around her opponents chess board when she thought no one was around to notice.

I get why it's catching headlines, but give me a break. It's just crazy being crazy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

So calling them Russian is technically accurate

The word Russian has two meanings in English. It can mean relating to the country of Russia, or relating to the Rus ethnicity.

The Russian language distinguishes the two. The first is росси́йский. The second is ру́сский. Both words are translated as “Russian” in English, which causes confusion in English, but there’s no such confusion in Russian.

These people (Dagestanis) are Russian in the first sense, but not the second sense.

Historically, the second sense of “Russian” included Ukrainians and Belarussians (so you could say Ukrainians were Russian in the second sense, but not the first sense) but it’s become controversial to do so since the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I can only approach this from the English language, which is why I said technically correct. But I also feel the article should have done a lot better job explaining that they were Dagestani, which is not unreasonable as if this had happened in Chechnya, it would have said Chechen.

Also, I have never seen Russian used interchangeably with Ukrainian, or Belarusian, before or after, 2014. But again, maybe that's just my English language only bias.

That said, I do appreciate you writing on the explainer for other users who aren't familiar with the status of, or distinction between Russia and the Caucasus.

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