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The former president and first lady threw their weight behind the presumptive Democratic nominee

Barack and Michelle Obama have endorsed Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination for president, sharing the news in a joint phone call.

A video released by the campaign suggests the former president and first lady called Harris on Thursday while the vice president was in Houston, where she addressed the American Federation of Teachers and received a briefing on recovery efforts following Hurricane Beryl. 

“We called to say, Michelle and I couldn’t be prouder to endorse you and do everything we can to get you through this election and into the Oval Office,” Barack Obama is heard telling Harris in a 55-second video of the call. 

“This is going to be historic,” Michelle Obama tells Harris.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is winning the only hurdle? That's so depressing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When it comes to stopping Project 2025? Yes, that is the only hurdle. Work on the rest after that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's not something we'll ever "stop". That's an ongoing eternal fight. And you don't win by only playing defense. You need to try to score also.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We will never stop a specific agenda that has been laid out in great detail in a plan Americans are souring to the more they hear about it?

The sounds like what some people told me about Biden in 2020. Why vote for him? He's the same as Trump.

Except he isn't. By most measures.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who said that? Did I? I never said any of that. Read my previous comment again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your previous comment:

That’s not something we’ll ever “stop”. That’s an ongoing eternal fight.

My response:

We will never stop a specific agenda that has been laid out in great detail in a plan Americans are souring to the more they hear about it?

Then I told you a different claim that your comment sounded like.

So yes, you did say that it is not something that we will never stop.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did the agenda get stopped? Project 2025 exists. So the right wing religous agenda is ongoing, is it not?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What a strange question. The agenda didn't get stopped because the election hasn't happened yet. Which is why they need to be beaten first so it can be stopped.

You do understand that it's called "Project 2025" because they want to implement it in 2025, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Project 2025 exists because electing Biden didnt stop anything. P25 is simply the latest label for the same agenda that's been going on since forever. That's what never ends.

The conservative religious right has waxed and waned for millennia. But it never stops.

You're missing the forest to the trees.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay, well then I guess we should give up. You're right, don't vote for Harris. She doesn't pass the purity test. Let Trump win.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I never had a chance to vote for her. I was never offered any other options. That's what my first comment was all about.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did you canvass for anyone else to challenge Biden in a primary?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Would there have been a debate if I had?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Possibly. But you clearly didn't canvass. If you're not going to put in the work to canvass for another candidate, it's pretty silly to complain that you weren't given a choice.

Candidates don't get on ballots by magic. It takes work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No they wouldn't. The party leaders were all in on Biden until 3 weeks ago. The last thing they want is for the public to choose "their" candate.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

This is a lot of work to justify doing and contributing nothing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

That's a great excuse for never trying, isn't it? "They don't want us to do it."