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It's important to note the reason all this kicked off is a Russian boxing organization (that let her fight multiple times) disqualified her after she beat an undefeated rising Russian star, and won't disclose what test they accuse her of failing.
But they have said it wasn't the testosterone test.
So it's not surprising Republicans immediately ran with it
And, they DQed her in a way that erased her win, making that Russian boxer still undefeated on the record.
But yeah, they claimed she failed a test, but won't reveal who did it, or the methodology used, meaning it's not replicable and thus NOT GOOD SCIENCE.
It was made up in the first place anyways. Russia has 0 credibility on the national stage. If a Russian institute announced that the sky was blue, I'd go out to check. He should be ashamed citing their bullshit, but I suspect that's an emotion he's incapable of.
It's actually worse. They said "it wasn't the Testosterone test" when the DQ was announced in October, then yesterday said "it was the Testosterone test, or she has XY karyotype" depending on whichever one of the speakers you believe.
Fool me once, your fault. Twice? I'm an idiot.
It's not a Russian organization, it's the IBA - which is the premier amateur boxing organization/confederation, which is currently headed by a Russian national.
And his time in office has been a smashing success, such as when the IOC withdrew their recognition of the IBA, which removed the IBA from any involvement/participation in Olympic Boxing.
It wasn't a Russian organization...
But most of it's operations have been moved to Russia, and their sole sponsor is a Russian company...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boxing_Association#2023%E2%80%93present
The guy has even canceled elections to replace him. By now it's essentially a kidnapped organization, literally nothing prior to 2023 matters anymore. It is only the IBA still in name only.
Like the old NRA takeover in the 70s.
That is what I was responding to. Your flippant dismissal of what the IBA actually is: a highly relevant intentional sporting organization for boxing, which is still true despite their current situation.
Shit on them for everything you laid out, their farsical antics this week, blatant corruption, or any other number of issues, but don't intentionally mislead and mischaracterize them to an audience that most likely largely ignorant of amateur boxing or combat sports in general. Or at least, that is assuming as there are no active combat sports communities on Lemmy that I have seen, be it MMA, boxing, kick boxing, etc.
Always blame Russia, even when it is just your old white supremacy that is prevalent in Europe and North America. Do you think the Russians were the reason for the French occupation of Algeria that resulted in millions dead?
Do I think Russians cheat at international sports? Yes.
What the fuck are you going on about with that other shit?
You are blaming Russia for the West's long tradition of white supremacy and racism. Algeria only freed itself from brutal French rule in 1962. Bigotry towards Algerians and North Africans is engrained in France and across Europe.
Well the French aren't being assholes right now, Russia is. Specifically in relation to sports. Which is the topic of the conversation.
How does western racism cause Russia to falsely ban an athlete?
The French didn't stop being assholes, it was only a few months ago when an anti-Arab and Muslim song went viral. Imane has been demonized by Western outlets, politicians and other celebrities, because she is an Algerian woman who defeated an European women.
Well this didnt age well, Imane is a darling to the west now, and might be the only person who can shut jk Rowling up for a week.
And I will allow a single part of France to be ass backwards, just like any other country. Should I share with you all the chart toppers from mine that are explicitly racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. Some artists even write controversial songs in an effort to move forward dialogue, even though their actual art itself might be problematic and non-representative of their morals.
The tests and results are confidential. Stop making a Russian conspiracy out of this. Lame and boring.
Confidential and yet they blasted it all over the world?
They were mentioned in an interview. People say things they shouldnt all the time.
Conspiracy theories are the best way to make yourself look silly.
Confidential eh?
Do you know that conspiracy means: a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful
If she's not of issue and they're keeping the results secret/confidential, that's a valid conspiracy theory.
Put yourself in her or her coach's place?
It's silly to out of all possible options to what has happened, to take exactly the one you can use for your rallying cry.
Not to mention no one is saying this, she isn't, her coach isn't, not even the media is. Nobody that matters. Only some online warriors.
I'm done. This is not worth my time. If you want to believe go ahead, but you know what they say: nobody believes only one conspiracy theory. Bye.
They also say that no conspiracy theories are ever true.