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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh I’m reasonably confident if we got rid of cars that’d be a good thing for the climate.

If there was plentiful mass transit the need for electric cars is reduced greatly.

Cars are terrible forms of mass transport and societies need to deprioritise them in city planning.

The idea that we can just keep doing what we’re doing and replace all ICEs with BEVs and it’ll solve climate change is not really the full story.

Now if you’ll excuse me I’ll go back to my mouth breathing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah I want cars to die honestly but if I were stupid enough to think it's going to happen, then ... I'd be a moron.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look into going vegan, it's an even more impactful step that someone can personally make.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look into going vegan, it’s an even more impactful step

going vegan has no impact at all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have any sources for that? Literally have no idea how you come to that conclusion

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

can you tell me what year you went vegan? feel free to point to it on this chart.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-meat-production

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you think that proves. World population has grown and people eat more animal products than ever, which is part of my argument that we should be cutting back on animal products and eat more humane and more efficient food sources.

Thanks for linking to proof of my point.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

whatever your excuse is, being vegan hasn't helped any animals

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you figure? Genuinely don't know how you could come to that conclusion.

Also, why are you arguing so aggressively about me being vegan? Sounds like denial or guilt for killing animals that you don't have to tbh

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I don't care if you are vegan, but don't lie to yourself or others about whether it makes any difference

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you figure?

no fewer animals are killed than before you became vegan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If everyone went vegan, do you think the number of animals killed would stay the same? This is like a blend of "voting doesn't matter" and "abolitionists have no effect since the slave population has grown every year."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

abolitionists free slaves. where are the animals you've saved?