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@LaFinlandia
I'm reminded of what Japanese soldiers were told about Americans. From what I recall, they, too, would commit suicide rather than be captured, fearing torture. Awful.
Back then it was almost impossible for the average Japanese person to get news not controlled by the Japanese government, but is Putin's control over the Russian internet so effective that Russians also have no information that he doesn't control?
It's not about control, it's about distrust. Totalitarian cacophony. Putin doesn't need to make Russians trust their own media; he only needs to convince them that ALL media, everywhere, lies, all the time. The weaponization of cynicism in service to fascism.
Known as the "firehose of falsehood"
More like the "Lying Press"
Well, no. The originally German / Nazi tactic called Lügenpresse aka. "Lying Press" is more about just claiming that the press is lying – like how conservatives latched onto calling everything "fake news" after US Republicans and Trump started doing it after their bullshit was called out with that term.
The idea with the "firehose of falsehood", like the page I linked to explains, is to saturate media with so much high volume and continuous bullshit that people start to doubt whether it's even possible to know anything about objective reality in the first place. The point isn't to proclaim that the media is lying, but to simply lie so much that people start to think that all media is just lies. The tactic originated in Russia and has been in use since Soviet times and the internet has allowed them to take it to a completely new level.
And yes, Nazi-controlled media was obviously also full of total fabrications, but that doesn't mean that these two tactics are the same thing.