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Claiming that naturalization of people who already live in the US will "destroy societies" is absolutely pushing hate.
One can have the idea that immigration is bad, or we need to think all the same?
That's a very different claim from the one you started with: that the conversion of immigrants who have lived in the United States for 5+ years will somehow "destroy" society.
The latter is hate speech.
People who have lived in US even for years are anyway immigrants that at some point have been a weight on limited housing and jobs, I’m not sure why you people keep repeating that they’ve been in US for years like it means something or like I said that housing and jobs or salary stagnation is a today’s thing, it’s been a thing for years, probably even before these people moved to US
You say this like it's something limited to immigrants. Millions of American Citizens are in exactly the same situation, often through no direct fault of their own, other than not being born into a wealthy family. But based on the wording and phrasing you have used in this thread, it's clear you are the type of person to assume anyone not making enough to be middle-class are clearly lazy and that there are no real socio-economic roadblocks preventing anyone from moving upwards.
Because it does. They've taken the time and proven that they can be constructive members of society and follow our laws. Something that many natural-born citizens prove they aren't capable of daily. These immigrants are objectively BETTER for society than a decent chunk of natural born Citizens.
If you honestly think the timeframe doesn't matter, then let's take that to it's logical next step. I highly doubt you're one of the 1% of the population that is Native American. So you should go back to wherever your immigrant parents were from since time doesn't matter.
Stop trying to justify your hate speech.
I’m always surprised by the capabilities to articulate of dems, it reminds me of Israel, either one joins the echo chamber or is hateful
There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate.
You start with a bad faith argument, and anyone is supposed to take you seriously?