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The Best Encrypted Messengers in 2024 (blog.thenewoil.org)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I am a firm believer that there are many privacy techniques you should focus on before encrypted messaging because they will offer you much more “bang for your buck,” things like good passwords, two-factor authentication, and even encrypted email. That said, I still believe that encrypted messaging is a critical part of a well-rounded privacy and security strategy. While the vast majority of our day-to-day conversations may be benign, it can still offer a lot of insight into who we are as people – our routines, likes, and personal thoughts. This information – mundane or not – is worth protecting.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What I like about Matrix so much is that it can be run fully on your own infrastructure, even the TURN server for VOIP, and you can build the clients from source yourself too.

But I agree that it's quite difficult to use. And until now only my dad and my spouse use it with me because they love me and trust me. But they both always have problems with their clients. It randomly logs out and then they have to login with the password and with the encryption key again. For a long time calling didn't work because I misconfigured the server. Then videos were for the longest time uploaded in full size and anything longer than a few seconds would be rejected. The whole spaces thing is implemented very weirdly so it confuses them. And then the threads are even worse so we can't use them because nobody gets how to do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Signal ux is much better fyi, though I accept it's hard to roll your own. Trade offs are generally worth

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

As far as I know you can't host your own signal server which connects to their servers.

I'm using Signal with the rest of the family and most friends.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

As far as I know you can't host your own signal server which connects to their servers.

That's right, Signal is not federated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah they killed federation, though I can't disagree with the reason. Thankfully you don't need to trust the server

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

You can technically set it up base on the published code, but you'd need to modify the client as well. Not like it's Matrix or XMPP, asking you for server address upon registration. I am afraid to think how much of the server dependence is hardcoded there...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Use Simplex Chat instead

The downside with Simplex Chat is that there is no server side accounts