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You didn't even address the argument on Imane Khalef, ye sack of shite
What argument? Most of the article says "Everyone who disagrees with me is a far right gender fascist and also for some reason racist and I'm right because science (I didn't care to link to) says so, trust me bro."
The only half viable arguments provided (and I'm really reaching here) can be easily debunked.
Sex is assigned at birth based on external characteristics aka primary reproductive organs, you can't tell someone has internal testes, xy chromosomes or abnormally high testosterone levels just by looking at them.
The Olympic rules that were changed recently by removing the requirements for testosterone level within a certain range, the same reason why she was deemed illegible to compete by International Boxing Association just a year earlier, who is way more qualified to set fair and safe boxing rules then the International Olympic Committee by their own admission (PDF warning). Clearly we can't say that it's 100% fair and safe for her opponents.
I'm a guy and I'm 99% sure I would loose to a pro female boxer in the same weight class, because I have 0 training or experience, but I'm also 99% sure I would do way better than a girl with 0 training or experience. Loosing doesn't mean you don't have an unfair advantage.
Even using the lefts' own logic, if sex is a spectrum and she as someone who's intersex is somewhere in the middle of that spectrum, isn't it unfair and unsafe for either her or her rivals to fight each other when they're so far apart on the thing that's so detrimental to defining ones' physical capabilities?
I was hoping that was a countdown to nuclear annihilation
I ain't reading all that go back to reddit dweeb.
Yuh, I suppose that much... but if you want, ye can do the examinations yourself... maybe show me your balls, cabron
Hmm, and why is that?
There seems to be other factors to consider, than just testosterone, man
Besides, um, the IBA didn't even test for testosterone (still, if they at least make the results public, I'd understand them)
On the next argument
Oh, don't make laugh
Next argument
Ok, fine, fair point, the lady's had 50 matches, 37 wins, 9 losses Besides, Amy Broadhurst, one of her past boxing opponents, says she's not as unstoppable as SHe looks
However, how did Imane get her experience? By having to deal with boys trying to sock her for her skills in football
Here... even if she was intersex, just consider this:
You give me specific data on her chromosomes and testosterone, and maybe I'll consider it
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As somebody who doesn't care for sports, I always thought this xkcd was poignant:
That said, do we actually know she's intersex?
I'm sorry people are just giving you troll answers, btw.