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Car Privacy is Shit (programming.dev)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I wanted to get others' takes but it seems like the only real way to get a non-spying car is to get an older car without any sort of telemetrics. I saw a video about different car companies' security policies, well specifically the new Mental Outlaw video, and it just blew me away how even our cars aren't safe. Anyone got tips for how to anonymize their car?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Should be quite easy to remove any WiFi/cellular/satellite antennas from the car's computer. (Might be trace/chip antennas, so make sure to get those). If you're extra paranoid, get the GPS antenna too, so it can't simply record data indefinitely.

Might take a few hours to go through the car to make sure you get everything, but you won't be limited to super old cars.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe for a second that the car won't be sending either an unremovable error message, a constant and un-mute-able audible alarm, or a complete lockout of subsystems or the entire system itself. The best case scenario is that this is a mild inconvenience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Does your car lock up outside of cell coverage? I'm not suggesting removing the radios themselves, just the antennas. To the car, it will just always be out of range.

The antenna used for talking to the keys might cause trouble, but those are either inherently short range inductive systems or are receivable using a 20$ RTL SDR to verify it's not sending anything else.