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Car Privacy is Shit (programming.dev)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I wanted to get others' takes but it seems like the only real way to get a non-spying car is to get an older car without any sort of telemetrics. I saw a video about different car companies' security policies, well specifically the new Mental Outlaw video, and it just blew me away how even our cars aren't safe. Anyone got tips for how to anonymize their car?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Depending on the car you might be able to physically disable telemetry. Here are some thoughts/ideas I've been collecting:

Hit "SOS" button and opt-out of all services through customer service. This of course requires trusting the company to actually do it.
- It's possible that the info could be stored locally and then uploaded when it gets serviced though
Remove the fuse to the modem/data communication module (DCM)
Disconnect wiring to the LTE antennas
A number of people have mentioned that they can get the dealer to disconnect the telemetry as a precondition to buying. For instance, here.
Jump the data communication module (DCM) cable with a ~$70 dongle to bypass just the telematics components
Disconnect the DCM cable, which will likely gimp the infotainment if not other systems, or remove the entire DCM unit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Quite a few cars also still have a SIM card hidden somewhere, which can be removed. The location of it varies widely though and they're usually pretty hard to find.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You need a line break between your paragraph and your list.

Depending on the car you might be able to physically disable telemetry. Here are some thoughts/ideas I've been collecting:

Hit "SOS" button and opt-out of all services through customer service. This of course requires trusting the company to actually do it.
- It's possible that the info could be stored locally and then uploaded when it gets serviced though
Remove the fuse to the modem/data communication module (DCM)
Disconnect wiring to the LTE antennas
A number of people have mentioned that they can get the dealer to disconnect the telemetry as a precondition to buying. For instance, here.
Jump the data communication module (DCM) cable with a ~$70 dongle to bypass just the telematics components
Disconnect the DCM cable, which will likely gimp the infotainment if not other systems, or remove the entire DCM unit

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Oh, it looked Ok in my app (Voyager). But I added the line break.