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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

At minimum, it will be a draw.

That would be, as far as Ukraine's current public statements and NATO's as well, a loss.

Ukraine's military can't push the Russian military back to the Russian border and Russia isn't going to agree to handing most of the places along the border that are currently being occupied by Russian troops back Ukraine/NATO.