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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

man even americans are starting to regurgitate this isreali party line; gazans are so fucked.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Is it an Israeli line? I don't doubt that Israel says it, but it seems to me like Iran developing nukes is a pretty rational response to America ditching the agreement. I certainly don't like a government like Iran's having those weapons, but it's very understandable for it to want them and the country has the capacity to make it happen

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Yes it's an Israeli line. (This was from like 20 years ago.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Got to love the iconography of a bomb from the 19th century.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Doesn't that turn of phrase imply that it's untrue (or at least misrepresentative) though? It's not meaningfully "an Israeli line" if it's actually just true

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I certainly don’t like a government like Iran’s having those weapons

  1. It is not about you
  2. Israel is worse and has nuclear weapons, the US already used them twice and Ted Cruz and other US politicians regularly threatens to nuke the Middle East
  3. Countries in the region have a right to protect themselves from foreign powers
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

1 - I didn't say it was? I'm allowed to express an opinion without expecting the world to conform to it

2 - Disliking Iran's government doesn't imply liking opposed governments

3 - They do, I agree

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Broken clocks can still be right.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-uranium-enrichment-germany-israel-c9b3669a7721bd8929d465117c81b70f

Inspectors from the UN found enrichment activity was starting to exceed 84% where 90% is the target for bomb making. 60% is the level they are attempting to enforce.

Also this is February 2023, so you’d suspect they’ve made more progress since then.