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So I've been using youtube ad blockers since pretty much when ad blocker extensions were first available. Lately though I've been getting hit more and more with these messages that YT was sending out every 5 or so videos telling me that adblockers aren't allowed. No problem, just gotta wait 5 seconds to x it out and then close my video. The straw that broke the camel's back though was when instead of a close-able pop-up, they just posted it in front of a video and wouldn't let me watch anything until I disabled my adblocker.

So I disabled it and... wow. It's just so, so, trash. 2 ads before a video plus midrolls and every video ever. I tried listening to a playlist of songs and was getting a midroll ad every single time. Imagine trying to just listen to music for 3 minutes and getting interrupted by a commercial for a chevy silverado! Half the ads were for youtube premium and they specifically mentioned that it would get rid of all the ads. It just felt so damn predatory. I couldn't enjoy anything that wasn't already demonetized.

And you know I'm fine with ads I guess. I could live with an ad before every video, but the fact that I was getting upwards of 5 ads in a 10 minute video was just plain absurd. I also hate that youtube got rid of the yellow markers to show you when an ad was coming up, so now it's just out of nowhere and always interrupts a key part of the video.

E: I've been on Firefox for over a year.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

I used to pay for premium just because it was the simplest way to watch ad free on my phone (IOS so Vanced was not an option), and being able to download videos to watch later on a flight was nice.

But then they wouldn’t let you do Picture in Picture from the app, which, like, fine. Annoying but I’ll just play it in the background and just listen to the audio.

But then they started forcing the tiktok clone onto the home page and subscriptions page. I really do not like the dopamine disinformation vortex. So I deleted the app and just started watching them through the website, which actually enabled Picture in Picture and let me hide the shorts shelf (for 30 days before I have to click the X again.)

Now I’ve just stopped paying for it and just watch YouTube in the Firefox Focus IOS browser which completely blocks YouTube ads in my experience. It won’t let me do Picture in Picture or play audio in the background on their website, but I’ve noticed embedded YouTube videos on other websites will.

So now I’m looking in to using other front ends so I can have complete normal functionality without having to watch adds or pay them money and have their stupid tik tok clone shoved down my throat.

Good job Google, you managed to completely alienate someone who was paying you cash. Now I’m the definition of a free rider on your service.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

ReVanced can patch your YouTube client (even without root) and add (your choice of) features, for example adblocking, picture in picture, playing in background as well ad quality of life improvents like hiding the "block" of news videos, remove reels or certain buttons

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

They said they're on IOS.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Hmm. I've always had premium so never looked into ReVanced. I knew it existed, but didn't realise it might be useful for more than just bypassing ads.

Most of these should be regular settings. I want several of them. My biggest bugbear is shorts. But I also want to be rid of those little popup things and the overlay cards at the end of a video.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The reviews on the play store make this sound like a pretty trash app. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong one...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Revanced isn't in an app store (at least not a legit version), you have to build it yourself. Otherwise it would probably end like Vanced. Take care of scam websites, this is the real one: https://revanced.app/

Or check this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedapp/comments/xlcny9/revanced_manager_guide_for_dummies/ (yes, it's Reddit, but the guide was really useful to me 🤷‍♂️)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks, that's much different! lol This looks pretty involved. Does it need to be updated all the time as Youtube updates, similar to NewPipe? Because NewPipe is a pain to keep updated but it also a lot less work. lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What I usually do is tell the Play Store to not update it. Also, I don't think it's that involved. Take this with a grain of salt because I'm pretty experienced with phone modification, but I think it's just downloading the file, opening it, selecting YouTube, choosing what modifications you want, and installing it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

ReVanced doesn't really require frequent updates. After modifying the YouTube app, I disable auto updates and keep using it until something doesn't work properly (usually ads reappear)- Happens maybe every 4-5 months for me.

For example, the YouTube version I'm using right now is 18.23.35 from June 10th, while the newest version that can be patched with ReVanced is 18.35.44. But since I haven't seen any issues, I didn't even bother to check for updates. Only your comment made me check and realize that I can update it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't find it at all annoying to keep NewPipe up to date.

I think you may need to take a look at Obtainium.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Anything revanced on the play store is fake. You cannot get Revanced from the play store. https://revanced.app/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you're open to recommendations, sideloading uYou+ (via altstore or other methods, no jailbreak needed) is sort of like ReVanced but for iOS.

There's also Yattee which is on the App Store or you can sideload it. It can connect to a Piped or Invidious instance to play YouTube vids.

Both of them are open source if that's important for you

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

uYou+ is no longer maintained. I use uYouPlusExtra: https://github.com/arichorn/uYouPlusExtra

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I’ll look in to that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe it's an iOS thing, but I can definitely do PiP with Premium on the official app on Android.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It may be different now, but when IOS first added PiP is was super inconsistent with the YouTube app, it worked one week, then the app updated and it didn’t work, then the next week it worked if you were logged in, then only with premium, then only if you were not logged in, then it would exit out of it it the first time you opened it but not the second time you opened PiP

It was just… a mess and it almost felt like there was some back and fourth going on between Apple and Google over how it was implemented.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I can do PiP on iOS with my premium subscription.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

PiP works on iOS, even without premium (with some restrictions). At least it did very recently, I have premium now though so I can’t verify as of today

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A bit of an aside, but did you use speech to text to post this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I’m just bad at proof reading and a clumsy typer/ not the best with written grammar

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's cool. Was curious more than anything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Impression I got, too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I can do PiP on Firefox android by playing the video in fullscreen and returning home. There's an add on for FF, Video Background Play Fix, that allows me to play in the background as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Check out uYou+ with AltStore. It lets you enable PiP and background play, and I think you can disable shorts and such.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Try Yattee. Piped client for iOS. You do have to do weird setup because the app needs to pretend to not be a Piped client. Otherwise, Piped or Invidious website.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The brave browser allows you to Picture in Picture and blocks ads!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AdGuard for iOS blocks YouTube ads. Adblock Pro has an “open in PiP mode” button that lets you open videos in PiP without YT premium, which is cool.

I don’t use the app