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Oh, she isn't a serious or viable candidate for way more than that, not least of which is the fact that she's a Russian asset.
So I doubt you know the state department released a statement saying nothing nefarious happened while she was seated at that table for a few minutes.
I actually tried to find the State Department statement on that, and couldn't. Do you have a link?
they may have been referring to the Senate intelligence committee investigation
*Senate Investigation Committee, and they still found nothing nefarious.
Okay, now I'm looking for a Senate intelligence committee investigation of Jill Stein that looked into that photo and others, and I'm not finding it. When I look up the intelligence committee and Stein, what I find is the report that indicated Russian propaganda efforts to get people voting for her, but that's it. Could you provide a link, please?
So she wolfed down all that food and a glass of wine in just a few minutes? Impressive.
That wasn't her table assigned for dinner.
That's not what she says about sitting there at the head table in December 2015. https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/democracy-now/clip/why-jill-stein-attended-moscow-dinner-with-putin-and-flynn
Also, it's kind of a weird coincidence that that russian propaganda just happened to launch a pro Jill campaign that helped take votes away from Clinton the following year. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russians-launched-pro-jill-stein-social-media-blitz-help-trump-n951166 (Not saying Jill is necessarily a russian asset, but Putin still used her for his advantage.)
it wasn't the head table.
My bad. I called it the head table because that's what both the reporter and Jill said in the interview.
really? can you link that? i've been arguing about this irrelevant photo for over half a decade and this is the first i've heard it was the head table.
yup no problem, it's in my above comment. https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/democracy-now/clip/why-jill-stein-attended-moscow-dinner-with-putin-and-flynn
I'm not trying to say she was necessarily a russian asset, but Putin did seem to use her to his advantage to help trump, which is something Putin is pretty good at.
damn. i have watched that interview a dozen times and missed that it was the head table. what i did hear (and transcribed just now while watching it) was:
"war has failed in the middle east"
"we need a peace offensive"
"there was no interpreter"
"no introductions were made"
"it was a chance to lift up a different point of view about US ... as well as Russian foreign policy."
"I spent the dinner talking to the german diplomat"
"i wasn't paid a penny."
"i declined sponsorship"
"nothing happened at that dinner"
"that picture circulates without a single fact"
"i was there with a number of peace advocates"
i'm sure you can understand how i found it forgettable that it was the head table, and i hope you can forgive my assertion that it was not.
No problem, all in all it's a pretty minor detail that doesn't change anything anyway. Like I said, I don't think she was acting under Putin's orders, just that he (and his propaganda machine) jumped on the chance to take advantage of things to help the Orange guy.
She didn't take any votes from Clinton, that's not how voting works. We would not have voted for Clinton even if there was no one else on the ballot.
Whose food was she sitting in front of?
i'm sure it was.
I'm sure you know nothing about the situation
i have been defending my vote for jill stein for 6 years. please dont tell me what i know. she bought a ticket to an event for one of the few media outlets that would give her a platform. she didn't know who else was assigned to her table. putin wasn't one of those, but he sat there for a few moments. he spoke only in russian and didn't engage with anyone speaking english.
Link the source, then. As for now, you can read up on why Stein IS a Russian Asset.
Are you actually using Third Way as a source? You have any idea who they are? And how they are one of the top reasons government is as fucked up as it is?
Cool.
Now, look up the fallacy of virtue and tell me that isn't you right now.
Thats like liberals hating whataboutisms until someone having a valid critique of Biden. Im sure I could go through your history, if I cared, and find comments dismissing valid stories based on the source.
Your source above from an org that was the main driving force behind shifting your entire party to the right. Ignoring the base while they pandered to moderate republicans, then when they got them into the fold, they got ignored so they could pander even further to the right. Rince and repeat for 30 years
she's not a russian asset.
Oh well that settles that!
I have presented exactly as much evidence as anyone else.
No you didn't.
anyone can read this and see