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I agree with you, but in the eyes of many, people like US have made the world worse. I'd also argue that we all make the world worse one way or another, even if it's just via consumption under capitalism. This is why judgement can not be subjective or street-justice. It has to fall within the social contract, even when talking about someone that has broken it. If we are truly equal, then even the worst have to be treate equally
Okay but we're literally dealing with a person (and a group of people backing him) who have literally been positioning themselves to pull off a coup by legal mechanisms. They literally have the Supreme Court rubber stamping Trump's immunity even though he stole classified documents, and then refused to return them, unlike every previous President who understood things like national security. Judge Cannon even dropped the case the day he became the Republican nominee, specifically citing Thomas' concurrence in which he talked about an unrelated issue that has been repeatedly ruled on already, the issue of Special Counsel funding. They have corrupted the court system already. They also espouse a deeply hateful and hurtful ideology that isn't above killing innocent people to achieve their ends. Trump has also made it fully clear that he plans to contest the election if he loses. They also plan on trying to use legal trickery like the fake electors just like last time, in other words, cheating. (EDIT: Honestly it's the scariest part of JD Vance as VP. His law degree and how fucking vicious he is. He's going to kick the ratfuckery into high gear) Trump has spoken constantly about "military tribunals" for his enemies. His former advisers readily admit they had to talk him down from killing people all the time during his previous administration.
They are literally dismantling the legal mechanisms that allow us to hold them accountable via the social contract.
Do you understand how what you're suggesting doesn't work in those circumstances?
How are we able to treat them equally and equitably when in the process of trying to do that, we allow them to dismantle the very systems that give us the power to do so? The only result after that is for us to be under their boot, and that point, they don't care about things like justice and will stomp that boot on our face... forever. They've made it clear they only care about power, going back a long time.
I don't get what argument you're making. Because our enemy would behead us, let's behead them first? If that sounds better to you than Trump's "retribution", sure. But to me it's retribution with extra steps, not justice.
Learn about fascism. Please. If we don't stop this before it's too late (might already be), we are in for a very very bad time.
I truly don't think most people can grasp just how fucked we will be if the Republican party accomplishes its stated goal of "dismantling the administrative state."
It will be interesting to see how they pin it on the left when all these idiotic welfare -receiving Trump voters inevitably lose their benefits.
Unfortunately, we will never have a fair election or peaceful transfer power ever again if he wins.