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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The outsourced studios might actually do better than 343, to be honest. 343 has so terribly mismanaged Halo. Its ridiculous how bad of a job they did. They were given charge of Xbox's biggest IP and the fumbled it. Halo Infinite was meant to be a glorious return to form, and it landed with a flop. Its like they did nothing but hire people that hated halo. They had the formula laid out by Bungie. All they needed to do was more of that and people would gobble it up.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No they won’t. 😄 the shit that happened with Halo becoming bad is literally a result of the previous tier of “outsourcing” - where Don Mattrick at XBox decided Bungie was too expensive to keep on board pumping out gold with the Halo franchise and so they literally spun up a BRAND NEW studio filled with greenhorns to handle their fucking flagship IP.

Outsourcing done to make dev costs cheaper NEVER results in a better game.

This is just a worse version of what made Halo shitty post Bungie. Now we’ll get to look back longingly at the relatively less shitty 343 era by comparison to what will be developed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They let Bungie go independent because Bungie was tired of making Halo. If they had stayed with MS, they'd be relegated to churning out Halo titles for eternity.

343 started off with top talent. They had Corrine Yu as their lead programmer. But it's almost like the studios directors got a blank check to fuck around, thinking anything with the halo branding would sell like crazy.

I don't think they're outsourcing Halo to save money. They'll likely outsource it to more experienced studios with better track records of achieving good results, because 343 is a lost cause. I wonder if their acquisition of Activision was in order to get some studios that could handle the Halo IP? Like Infinity Ward and Treyarch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I think a great example of what 343 should have done is treyarch taking over COD from infinity ward. They've converted infinity ward's COD into a behemoth. They maintained what worked. They knew living upto IW's standards wouldn't work. They split the COD brand up to MW, BlackOps & the World War stuff, to mitigate any creative risks they could now take. This allowed them to grow COD including going into newer platform & modes e.g. Warzone.

I know it's not an apples to apples comparison, but it does show how management of a studio is as important as the creative vision. 343 clearly lacked both.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Glad to see other folks have noticed this as well.

As a longtime Destiny fan, I was so excited to have Halo come in and take the spotlight and giving Bungie’s lazy ass a run for their money.

Instead halo flopped almost as hard as Anthem. Fucking sad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Idk if it was Anthem levels.