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[–] [email protected] 215 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (85 children)

I don't get it.

People wanted another Bethesda game.

They got what they wanted.

I said in 2008, after playing the first Fallout game by Bethesda instead of Black Isle: "Only Bethesda could manage to make a post apocalyptic prostitute boring."

They've always been boring, they've always had ugly character models, and the writing has always been bad. You get what you paid for. A Bethesda game.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (8 children)

They’ve always been boring

Strongly disagreed. Pre-Oblivion their games were great. Hoping for a return to engrossing stories taking place in a rich, expansive universe was not entirely unreasonable.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Morrowind was their best, but I would say 21 years on, it's really tough to be like "Yeah, this time they'll get back to their roots." No, it's time to move on. All the people who made those games what they were have retired, moved on, or died.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surely there's an element there of rose tinted glasses? All of us were 21 years younger. There were less games coming out and they were harder to get for many of us.

You didn't need to work so damn much to keep your head above water, or were below working age altogether. It was a lot easier to find the time to really immerse yourself in the lore and it required a lot of reading both in-game and out.

It was also all new to us, truly novel experiences with every leap in gameplay, graphics or mechanics being applied to brains that weren't completely immune to dopamine and over-stimulated constantly.

I played Ultima VII so much that my friends and I would quote the game to eachother at school...we were fully immersed in it and it was bloody huge for its day.

To be honest I barely even try with these type of games anymore. I know it isn't going to satisfy me. I tend to enjoy mastering movement mechanics and skill based competitive games. Sure, they also release the same game every year repackaged, but there's usually enough of a tweak to movement mechanics and gun physics that it's a challenge to get gud again and I get a real kick out of genuine competition.

I played Starfield for several hours on the weekend and I do my best not to judge too harshly given what I've said above but I feel as though there will never be a game ever again that grabs me enough to make that genre worth paying the money. It's me that's changed moreso than the lore being watered down. "Damn you, Avatar!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I grew up with Skyrim and mod it religiously - that’s where my nostalgia comes from. And even I’ll say that Morrowind completely blows it out of the water on nearly every front.

Skyrim’s a lot more accessible, and I love it for that, but that’s about it.

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