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[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Here's the part I like: Biden said "if they’re serious they ought to 'announce for president, challenge me at the convention' or rally behind him against Trump".

He's got a point. I thought the debate was a massive fuck-up, but deciding who to replace him with and then mounting a viable attempt at the replacement with that person makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than just leaning into GOP talking points about how Biden's fuckups, however bad, are definitely worse than Trump's objectively much worse fuckups.

Replace Biden? Sure, let's get fuckin busy, find a good replacement, and if doesn't work, get behind Biden or whoever the nominee is. I still think Jon Stewart is the way to do it, but that is probably a non starter of an idea. Kamala Harris is the highest polling option and realistic. Be aware that everyone who was super panicked about Biden's unsuitability will instantly pivot to panicking with concern-trolling about Kamala's unsuitability, and if you fall for it right away again and start trying to replace her, I will not have a lot of respect for you or your intelligence or pattern recognition abilities.

Keep Biden? Sure, that sounds good too. Let's get fuckin busy, and start rallying people to help him beat the end of the world in November.

Keep running in circles flapping our hands in the air about how something must be done because we're definitely going to lose in November, without offering any good alternate strategy or way to get it done? That is the option that seems unlikely to cause anything good to happen. It is, however, what a lot of the Republican aligned media seems very very committed to encouraging the Democrats to do, and for some mentally challenged reason it seems like it's winning over quite a lot of them.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Jon Stewart has said multiple times that he feels he can do more good outside of the political system doing what he does, than inside it being stymied at every turn.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

He's definitely not going to be able to do much good if Trump get elected, and he along with everyone else in the media who's left of Charlie Kirk gets brought up on charges of lèse-majesté.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Jon knows how much work it took just to get help for 9/11 first responders. Getting anything else done would probably kill him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As much as I like John Stewart, I think one of the big issues with Trump was that he and his administration were totally unqualified for their jobs. Let's not stoop to their level and put up someone who has never held public office.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

If we managed to get through a Trump term, with him being actively malicious and looking to do as much damage as possible, it proves exactly the fucking opposite.

Good intentions and a willingness to listen to knowledgeable advisors (but not simply follow them, genuinely listening to their explanations and then making a decision) is enough to be a good president.

Qualifications, like with most jobs that require all sorts of degrees and high requirements, are bullshit.