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If you're a white guy you're unlikely to see or be on the recieving end of bigotry from these types of people.
The trek boards on reddit were vile when Discovery came out, if anyone remembers that? Hundreds of pissed off trek fans adamant that a black woman should not be the main character and hating that there were no men on the bridge. And even before then the asian wife jokes, misogyny and rape jokes about Keiko were a regular occurence.
The show writers making episodes like the Kira porn holonovel also didn't help, Quark should have been kicked off the station for that. It's not very star trek to let sexual harrassment happen so blatently, is it? Oh wait, yeah no it was fine. Slap on the wrists, no big deal. Is it surprising that some viewers of the show took that moral lesson to heart because 'trek is a bastion of good and can do no wrong'? Bashir skulking around begging Dax for a date and monologing about winning his prize, was creepy as fuck too.Trek is so pure though, men who behave like that must be ok because it was in trek! Amirite?
You guys need to keep in mind there's a huge cross over between nerds and incels, and between star trek fans and old white guys who like imagining white guys in charge of exploring space and getting to fuck all the alien women.
Trek nerds can be shit people too. You aren't immune just because the show you like has some morals.
No one should be the main character in star trek, it's always been about groups of people working together to overcome difficulties, Discovery shat on that and created a character who's always right no matter what. People shat on Picard for the same reason.
SNW has what, 3 men in the whole main cast? People love it.
Quark also almost caused Jadzia's death when he let in the guy who wanted to steal her symbiont, it's just a bit of bad writing where they shouldn't let a main character they intend to keep cross certain lines.
Who said people liked that? Everyone says the first two seasons of DS9 were bad, for many reasons.
You should stop trying so hard to find reasons to hate people. Incel is a derogatory term, by the way, in its base interpretation it's just someone who can't get a partner, not necessarily a vile person. You're the one being toxic in this case.
Worf's one of the most beloved characters, and the one with the most episodes, and he's black.
No one's saying Trek's perfect, but you should stop trying to find faults in its fandom just for the sake of being contrarian.
Flip side? Uhura is fucking awesome and inspired my mum (now 86) to become a lifelong Trek fan. I'm also a lifelong fan, and I've been able to introduce it to my wife, who is also a fan now.
In summary, there's plenty of Trek fans who aren't straight white cisgendered men, and the number of toxic morons in this cohort feels much much less than in just about any other mainstream fandom.