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What is my interpretation of the scientific method?
And "science" before the scientific method was not science. It was magic and alchemy and religion. It was not tested. Experiments were not repeated to test them. Things were taken on literal faith.
And you can relate to the Ancient Greeks, but they were wrong. About pretty much everything.
The way you describe the scientific method it may as well be a magical spell.
It is a really awesome summary of sensible ideas and a notably agreement of prominent western intellectuals. But to disregard anything before it is a very strong and not at all scientific opinion.
Imagine trying to tell your math teacher that pythagoras was to stupid to double test their ideas or your doctor that hippocrates was but a religious nutjob.
Imagine going to a thousand year old building and being utterly blind for the intens mathematical knowledge coded within your surroundings because you don't believe “quality science” has been invented yet.
From where do you derive the faith to trust in all the science that is done ever since?
I don't trust people since then much more then those from before which is why i vouch personal experimentation, using your own senses and internal logic to come to conclusions. For me those just happen to align largely with platonism. Which has though mechanics that appear just as relevant to quantum mechanics now as it did for psychologically when i first externally heard about them.
Cool. The Ancient Greeks were still wrong about pretty much everything.
Full mask off trolling are we now?
Or really that pitty about being unable to hold yourself in an argument you just have to trow a tantrum.
I mean i don’t want to go this low but you didn’t even try reply intelligently so what else am i to describe this
“Cool. The Ancient Greeks were still wrong about pretty much everything.”
Print this on something for your philosophy teacher to hang on their wall, they will unironically love it, i am”
Nope. Responding to something silly you said by pointing out that the so-called Ancient Greek scientists you like were wrong on virtually every explanation of how the universe worked is not trolling.
How are you the same person.
On one hand wielding “the scientific method” like its the literal bible that shan't be questioned and it somehow being relevant to us not having found archeological evidence of ancient agriculture.
In the same breath you dismiss the entirety of contributions that were brought by the ancient greek as a whole. An entire culture and people with so much rich history?
I can only conceive your just trying to use the very little personal opinion i gave to diss is. In which case at least diss on plato specifically (or decartis cause i mentioned liking him to)
Come on, it like your not even trying anymore.
You can praise the contributions of the Ancient Greeks, but that doesn't change the fact that they were wrong about practically everything.
Nothing you can possibly say will make their conceptions of the universe correct. Democratus will never be correct about atoms no matter how much you want him to be. Similarly, Pythagoras will never be right about beans.
I am not praising them actually, not anymore then i do the scientific method. They were biased humans just like usz But they layed the fundamental groundwork modern science works on. I mentioned them cause there well regarded as foundational in science and plato just resonates with me. i remain just as much a skeptic and of the opinion one need to come to their own conclusions.
And if you want to label and entire culture on some Mistakes may i point to our much more modern friend columbus?
For me its not about their results but the style of thinking. Like i said the platonian way of viewing the world aligns with my natural way of experiencing the universe.
My message is to be of an open and critical mind. To use thoughts in an intentional structural and creative way to uncover new ground. Oh well.
This sure looks like praise to me:
But hey, if you're going to just lie about things, I can see why you reject modern science. And yes, you do reject it.
your reading comprehension and inability to see beyond your narrow viewpoint is depressing.
I can only conclude it doesn't matter how carefully i spell out my intend, you will just assume your own interpretation over it.
This is no basis for a respectful conversion. Though to be fair you attitude has been consistently rude. I should have taken the hint and left long ago.
Sorry, insulting me is not going to change the fact that you said you didn't praise them when that's exactly what you did.
Boohoohoo someone on the internet is being mean to me after i called them a liar for not putting the same emphasis on the vocabulary of my choosing and was genuinely disrespectful and rude for the entire conversation.
Maybe reflect on how you spend the last 24 hours passionately arguing against what is essentially a very generic PSA: "With an open mind, anything is possible." followed with a healthy dose of "Philosophy is useful in tangent with science" Which honestly i am not inventing the wheel here i was initially just trying to have good vibes.
None of that will change the fact that you said you didn't praise them when you did praise them either. Sorry.
No amount of you repeating your narrow minded interpretation will make it less childish.
This isn't a gotcha but you once again embarrassing yourself by admitting you fail to see the nuance in my words.
We can go back and forth but we will keep ending up on this spot. My point of view is literally to exotic for you to understand my sincerity.
Go to bed, touch grass. Go play some video games. Thats what i am gonna do.
You can get angry, you can insult, you can try anything you want, but you still said you didn't praise them when you did.