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Kia Ray is a compact car, currently only available in South Korea. It's tiny yet can carry a lot so a lot of small businesses have these as a van alternative.

I hate cars. But getting rid of them has a long way ahead and I think this kind of small-but-big kind of car can appeal general public and make cities better.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

To me the idea of "fuck cars" is not so much about cars as a concept, but rather the scurge of car dependency.
You don't want a society built around cars to the point that you cannot reasonably live your life without one.

That said, even in a perfect situation with ample public transit and walkable/cyclable cities everywhere, there will still be people in situations who need a car to get around. And for those people I'd prefer it if they would be driving around in compacts like this or smaller, rather than some of the cross-overs, SUVs and pickups you see today.

Some people will always need a car, and practical compacts like this would be perfect for that role.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

@Humanius @praise_idleness That and shared car ownership is an important part of the picture. When everybody owns a private car, everyone has taken on the sunk costs of ownership and feels an urge to drive more to justify it, plus cars dominate the landscape. Having to walk a few blocks to pick up a Zipcar and then pay a rate that to some degree reflects the cost of the trip significantly reduce discretionary driving by those who can walk/bike/use transit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I live somewhere that very much isn't car dependant, but there's still too many of them and it's still shitty. But I do agree that for those times that they're still necessary, the smaller the better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I also live somewhere that isn't car-dependent (the Netherlands)
While I would like to see fewer and smaller cars, I don't particularly mind the current state of things over here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

When I visited Europe, I didn't mind small cars on small roads. It was cozy and felt safe even for cyclists and pedestrians. But in the US I truly hate what cars have become: tank sized SUVs and giant stroads are unholy abominations