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I figured it was a marketing gimmick to get you to buy 88 and then they would finally raise the price, but it's been years. are they adding extra ethanol or something?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There’s a difference between summer and winter fuel for gasoline engines in some areas. It’s usually to do with smog restrictions.

The same octane can be reached with different blends of hydrocarbons. So instead of just ‘pure’ gasoline to hit a desired octane, refineries can mix together higher and lower octane fuels to reach the same overall octane rating. This increases the amount of refinery products that can be used to blend gasoline, so it can be made more cheaply. The trade off is that it’s less pure, and most importantly for this comment - that some components of of these cheaper blends may evaporate more readily, leading to smog.

In summer, when it’s warmer, some areas mandate gasoline must meet certain standards for evaporation. In winter, those standards are decreased, because it’s cooler.

Ethanol has a relatively low evaporation point. I don’t know the specifics of the commenter’s location, but I could see ‘summer gas’ having no ethanol to meet these standards.

More info: The Vapor Rub: Summer versus Winter Gasoline Explained — Car and Driver

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

that's wild. is this relatively new? I used to live in the Great White North and I've only been down in Florida for 10 years

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I must confess - aside from knowing there was a difference, I didn’t really know what the difference was until a few online searches yesterday.

The understanding I have is that winter/summer gas programs began in the late 1980’s.
My supposition is that they have been handled seamlessly to the point that unless you are involved in regulation or the industry, it’s relatively inconsequential to most folks. I imagine knowledge of the program’s existence is probably one of those things that people sorta ignore unless it randomly becomes a topic of conversation. (Like any number of random regulations that impact our daily lives that we just don’t think about most of the time.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I did always wonder how they made up for the changing energy density due to temperature

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am not sure but I suppose it's the opposite of what we have here commonly called winter fuel, which I think has some additives to help engines run better in low temperature conditions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you thinking of diesel? Winter diesel has additives to stop it thickening in the cold weather