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Why don't low birth-rate countries make immigration to their country easier? (fedia.io)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Wouldn't they benefit from more people? Of course it would come with the condition of learning the language at an acceptable level and that being tied to residency.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A lot of eastern Asian countries are extremely xenophobic in other words.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I mean to some degree yes, but as I said they are absolutely not prepared for it and have no one who could do the work of preparation of integration of migrants.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think there’s a difference between being prejudice towards an outside group and not wanting your own culture replaced.

There is nothing inherently wrong with countries and their cultures not wanting to have others integrate. In the past this is what helped them survive.

It’s only a big issue in countries like the US that want to be a mixing bowl/melting pot and also are being xenophobic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you understand the difference between integration and immigration?

Yes there is something wrong with not wanting to allow people from other cultures to integrate into your own.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We definitely disagree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because you are xenophobic yourself, yes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That’s a weak argument. Just because I bring up another point of view doesn’t mean I subscribe to the view mentioned, which I don’t.

If a country doesn’t want to allow immigration then that’s perfectly moral. It may eventually kill their culture off in the long run but it’s not xenophobic by definition.

If a country does allow immigration and then is prejudice towards a group coming in then absolutely that’s xenophobic.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Backtrack if you want, but what you said was xenophobic by definition and I'm not going to bother arguing semantics.

Edit: I like how you completely changed your comment after I replied. Very cool