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One House Democrat said he spoke for others in the wake of the president’s stunningly feeble debate performance on Thursday: “The movement to convince Biden to not run is real.”

The House member, an outspoken defender of the president, said that House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer should consider “a combined effort” to nudge President Joe Biden out of the race.

Crestfallen by the president’s weak voice, pallid appearance and meandering answers, numerous Democratic officials said Biden’s bet on an early debate to rebut unceasing questions about his age had not only backfired but done damage that may prove irreversible. The president had, in the first 30 minutes of the debate, fully affirmed doubts about his fitness.

A second House Democrat said “reflection is needed” from Biden about the way ahead and indicated the private text threads among lawmakers were even more dire, with some saying outright that the president needed to drop out of the race.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Stayed mum? They actively fought against allowing anyone to hold primaries.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

They did? That's weird I remember voting in them just like I do every 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You weren't paying attention. Many states banned anyone else from the ballot, even though there wasn't cause for that by the rules.

There were no debates (Something that would have given Democratic party members time to decide if they thought Biden was electable.)

Some states were told their delegates wouldn't count.

There was no fair Democratic Party primary. If you think there was you were either not paying attention, or you didn't want a fair primary in the first place.

This problem is a problem of the Democratic Part{EDIT}y's own making.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

This problem is a problem of the Democratic ~~Parties~~ Party's own making.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Even Russia puts the opposition on the ballot. That wasn't an election it was a roll call.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t get to vote in a primary here in Florida

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's cuz Biden ran unopposed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

So that’s the point that DancingBear was making and I was reinforcing- as Democratic voters, we were not presented with a choice this cycle

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can generally vote in primaries every year where one is needed, not just every four years fyi, if you’re in to voting and all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We're pretty clearly talking about presidential primaries here buddy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure but you specifically mentioned it so I wanted to say we can vote in primaries outside of presidential elections

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your pivotal contribution to the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Anything I can do to help with your circle jerk

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's the point - they closed ranks and kept riding the Biden train whilst quietly hoping that no one would notice it was in danger of coming off the rails.

https://theintercept.com/2024/06/28/biden-debate-dnc/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

But we did hold primaries and Biden won in a landslide

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Putin also wins by a landslide. It’s easy to do if you ban all the competition.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nobody noteworthy was competing and all of the elections were landslides. I understand wanting to go through the motions in all states, but it really made zero difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nobody noteworthy? “Going through the motions”? I guess democracy is just like making love with some kind of boring spouse? Okay, fine by me just don’t blame me when I leave the presidential option blank in November if Biden and Trump are the only two options on the ballot. But I do live in a blue state, Jesus H Christ thank god I can vote my conscious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Weird, my conscience is to vote against the corrupt, fascist, rapist with a grudge against America. After dealing with Trump's presidency and the aftermath, I can't even imagine not voting for Biden. And I'm in a red state, so my vote definitely doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well before this we had neoliberals I guess so…. But yes vote… even if you have to leave it blank, vote your conscious….. in a red state I don’t think I could live there, but vote regardless

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Mmmmm, yea…. Mmmkay. No debates, no media coverage, rarely allowing any primary candidates on corporate media, I’m gonna have to give your statement a mostly false