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If you can tip a delivery driver $4 with a straight face I feel bad for you. $8 minimum for direct-to-doorstep food, regardless of the cost of the food.
You yanks are crazy with your attitude to pay.
I didn’t say I like it, I just said that is the right thing to do.
Only because you live in a country where they don't pay people properly.
Yes, that is correct.
Also the drivers use their own personal vehicles so they experience all the extra wear and tear, fuel costs, more frequent tire and oil changes, etc.
It really is unfair which I why I make sure to tip decently.
I think you are using wrong tool for this problem.
So, you're supporting the unfair system.
I exist within the system. If I want a service which customarily involves a tip, that’s a part of what I signed up for.
Show me the legislation to abolish tipping while requiring employers to pay a fair wage and I’ll sign it.
Until then, if one wishes to receive a food delivery in the US, It’s sort of implied that you agreed to tip.
Giving a shit tip to a hard working poor person because you don’t like the tipping system isn’t the solution imo.
I thought yanks were all for the free market, tipping is the oppositeness to this as it negates the free market whereby companies complete with wages and benefits for staff.
There are only like 5 companies now so the free market is broken.
They collude to keep us poor enough to not revolt, but ‘rich’ enough to keep buying their crappy products.
If they take everything we have we won’t have anything left to give them. It’s a delicate balance that they seem to have mastered as they write our legislation.
Tipping is just another way for the corporations to reduce the overhead by having the customer pay the wages of the employee directly, reducing both the budget for salaries and also the reducing ancillary expenses like unemployment insurance and employer wage withholding, occupational privilege tax, etc.
Also, I like being called a yank. It feels old timey and kind of makes me think of masturbation.
The labor market is so fucked we have phd’s competing for a job at McDonald’s.
It also makes these jobs falsely competitive against other "unskilled" jobs where tipping isn't the norm.
Us yanks aren't all for anything. I've certainly become quite disillusioned about the free market over the past 40 years or so.
But in fact, free market principles suggest we would have tipless alternatives where workers make fair wages and the market could decide to reward those businesses or not. We do not have such alternatives and the market has failed us before the question is even properly posed.
Right thing to do is raise minumum wage.
When that happens, if they raise it high enough to actually do away with tipping, then that’s great. Until then, hard working poor people need their tips.
Preferably in cash.
Depends on your area.
When I was a delivery driver I'd refuse anything less than $20 total, which meant about $18 of tip.
$18 is a bit much, but I have 10 downvotes that say $8 is too much, so who am I to judge.
It just meant bigger / more expensive food orders.
Delivering $100 worth of food takes almost exactly the same effort as delivering $10 worth of food, but the difference in tips is huge.